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Re: Cubase for Linux

Post by MattiasNYC » Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:00 pm

As soon as you get to mix & match on your own the whole concept of "turnkey" is gone. The ADAC is key for us in pro audio so it needs to work. I would assume that to be one of the key features of this proposed box.

As for "just ported", it's not "just" ported, it also needs to be supported. So then someone needs to maintain the OS distro and be in sync with Steinberg, or Steinberg needs to do it, or it needs to stay put at one single version.

I honestly don't think it takes that much for other components to start placing demands on updates and support for this additionally supported OS. So yeah, one component might be $100, but you have to factor in all components and software and then add support overhead to it.
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Re: Cubase for Linux

Post by skijumptoes » Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:41 am

MrSoundman wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:21 pm
Manufacturers can buy mini 4-core boards at scale for less than $100, Thunderbolt and USB3 for the AD/DA so we can mix & match our own. The OS is free, remember? Not much customization necessary. The software (i.e. Cubase) would just need to be ported, and, as it's already cross-platform and uses a number of open-source components, I don't foresee any unsurmountable difficulties.
A $100 part actually costs more like $2-300 in manufacturing - this isn’t an eBay seller building a few machines at cost price - every part has to be sourced, tested and supply chain agreements put in place for production runs. Plus the control of Incoming and assembly QA assessments, failures in process etc. So many factors, people to pay and already occupied production lines to schedule these assemblies into, and a shed load of admin piled on top.

Many companies weight the true cost of a part at 2-4x the actual cost price due to overheads.

The OS isn’t ‘free’ either, Steinberg have to develop, test AND support it.. hundreds of thousands just to have two guys work making it saleable, cohesive and user friendly, and they’d need to project manage and fit it into their existing infrastructure, along with Yamaha on the hardware side. On top of that they also need to protect their IP and make it secure.

It’s also critical how this would compare with other such products on the market which Yamaha have vested interest in, and their reputation for hardware in the market as a whole.

How would they even begin to predict sales on such a project. Look at the Nuage controllers for pricing, if you broke down the ‘parts’ cost you could never justify the selling price by using this $100 part philosophy. That’s why the cost of a custom Steinberg/Yamaha hardware and OS combo would be through the roof!

Plus it would get bad mouthed on if less than perfect as they are platform owner, app developer and hardware manufacturer. They’d be mad to even entertain the idea... particularly if all this expense goes into running a cross platform app on which inherently is buggy and out dated in certain areas.

Doomed from the start pretty much.

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Re: Cubase for Linux

Post by MrSoundman » Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:35 am

skijumptoes wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:41 am
Doomed from the start pretty much.
OK let's just give up then. Oh look, someone else is doing it :o
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Re: Cubase for Linux

Post by MattiasNYC » Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:11 am

Cool.

When they've got all that we need running on "it" we have options... (or "if")
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Re: Cubase for Linux

Post by skijumptoes » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:40 pm

Elk is nothing like what’s being discussed here (?!), it’s not even an end user product. Just a framework for developers to use for deploying to devices such as Raspberry PI’s to incorporate VST plugins into standalone MIDI controllers.

I’d say what rock are doing with REAPER is more an indicator for what Steinberg would do to explore Linux/Open source options. It’s a very long path for them, and they haven’t a suite of tools and plugins to consider like Steinberg... Having the DAW and it’s supporting suite of tools on Linux is a big ask, yet only 30% of the puzzle being proposed here.

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