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MrSoundman wrote:I'm staying on Win7x64 until the first service pack for Windows 10 is released. There's nothing broken enough in W7 to warrant the days of work in rebuilding that will be necessary, and there's certainly no point in going to 8.1 with 10 already announced.

In any case, when I do jump it'll be onto a new boot drive (SSD) with the option to switch back to 7.
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DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES EVEN IF YOUR LIFE DEPENDED ON IT EVEN CONSIDER CHANGING TO THAT PILE OF JUNK THAT IS WINDOWS 8!!!

CUBASE 8 coming from 5 is so far outstandingly great!

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I have finally finished installing Win 8.1 (with latest updates). I have installed Cubase Pro 8 (full install not update) and now the brand new C Pro update 8.0.5

I watched this excellent video on youtube about setting up and tweaking Win 8.1 for Audio Production (thank you to who ever took the time out to make it) and so far everything is great. About to see if the 'Always on Top' Bug has actually been ironed out because (to me) that was very annoying. So far I'm very happy I made the switch to Win 8.1

I guess some people's definition of "Junk" is very different to mine. I wouldn't even know where to begin with coding a piece of software, especially an OS.
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Sorry, I forgot to add a link for the Youtube Video "Tweaking Windows 8.1 for Audio Production" (Just in case anyone is interested). Very useful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhQVkv3NM3k

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I fell for the Mac hype. Moved from win7 on my projector with a 12 foot screen to 2 27 inch Apple things. I *witch* and moan constantly. Constantly because I am a power user and I don't like the restrictions of the Mac. Still trying to love Mac because it sure is pretty on the desk. Not worth it though. Not worth it at all for the price paid. I would not do it again.

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Windows 8 can boot and launch applications faster than Windows 7, but that's it. It offers very nearly zero improvements as far as music production goes, and offers less backward compatibility with older applications and devices than Windows 7 does.

If your computer was built for Windows 8 and your software and hardware work on it, the OS is fine (8.1 is, at least... 8.0 was rough around the edges). But if you're already running fine under Windows 7, upgrading to Windows 8.1 won't offer any benefits other than the faster boot/launch times.

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I guess some people's definition of "Junk" is very different to mine. I wouldn't even know where to begin with coding a piece of software, especially an OS.
Exactly and neither would they. Or me. Even if some do, like guitarists' styles, they don't know how Cubase is coded exactly. What particular trade tricks they use to get an end result or how they tweak things for efficiency or even what mistakes might be in the coding. What computers they use or hardware it's tested on.
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UltimateOutsider wrote:Windows 8 can boot and launch applications faster than Windows 7, but that's it. It offers very nearly zero improvements as far as music production goes, and offers less backward compatibility with older applications and devices than Windows 7 does.

If your computer was built for Windows 8 and your software and hardware work on it, the OS is fine (8.1 is, at least... 8.0 was rough around the edges). But if you're already running fine under Windows 7, upgrading to Windows 8.1 won't offer any benefits other than the faster boot/launch times.
Everything is working brilliantly in Win 8.1! I'm not experiencing CPU spikes, performance is much better (on my PC) and ASIO Guard is actually doing something because I have to say, I didn't notice it doing anything whilst in Win 7. Now this may be nothing to do with changing OS but all I know is since updating my OS and making sure I installed the latest drivers and updates installed (completely from scratch - a clean installation of everything), things at this minute are running better than ever. All my gear is working (including a Midex 8 with Steinberg's Unsupported driver) so I have no care in the World about anymore backwards compatibility. I like the new feel and look of Win 8.1!

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Windows 8.1 keeps my "Desktop" clean and safe for audio production.
I limit my desktop S/W to audio only programs and use the Metro / Modern apps for everything non audio related.
This way I can avoid the mysterious growth of background services that eventually harm my pristine audio only environment.
These Modern apps run in a sandbox and as long as you respond with NO whenever asked if they can run in the background, they will never impact your audio production. This is major --- and along with the fast boot times and the fact that all my H/W drivers are happy, I would never consider using Win 7 again.
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jono not bono wrote:All my gear is working (including a Midex 8 with Steinberg's Unsupported driver)
Yay! :D Just to confirm, is this on Win 8.1 x64, even though your sig still says Win 7 x64?
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MrSoundman wrote:
jono not bono wrote:All my gear is working (including a Midex 8 with Steinberg's Unsupported driver)
Yay! :D Just to confirm, is this on Win 8.1 x64, even though your sig still says Win 7 x64?
Yes! Sorry, I haven't updated my sig. I shall do that now!

Midex 8 works on Win 8.1 (64bit) and with Cubase Pro 8 (64 bit) using Steinberg's unsupported driver! I'm more than happy about this!

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jono not bono wrote:Midex 8 works on Win 8.1 (64bit) and with Cubase Pro 8 (64 bit) using Steinberg's unsupported driver! I'm more than happy about this!
Thank you so much for this wonderful news -- makes my day! :D
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Windows 7 has the beautiful GUI "AERO glass". Works great with multimedia and has very good and overall stable performance.


Windows 8.1 works even better then Windows 7 did.
Windows 8.1 are more secure and faster. The OS itself has less impact on disk and are more optimized for multimedia like Audio, Video DAWs etc. Win 8.1 has a special "smart disk" enhancement and ability too. The only bad thing is that it hasn't the beautiful GUI "AERO glass" look anymore.




Windows 10 (Release second or third quarter 2015)- Are the best of both worlds.

Comes with more and all functions you find in Windows 8.1. Windows 10 will be even more better optimized for multimedia, audio video, game then any previously released Windows version ever have before.
You have the ability to run smart apps directly on the desktop instead of Metro. You have also virtual desktops views that you can design as of own liking. The beautiful GUI "AERO glass" comes back as a new re-worked Windows 10 AERO version.


In new Windows 10 you will get the virtual assistance Cortana, that talk to interact by speech directly with the user. This is the beginning and the first step of intelligent computers that talk to interact with the user. She knows everything about you and she learns everyday about you and your family members, pets, were you eat, what you eat and so on. Like a human assistance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA0Sk28TsP8

Soon mouse and keyboard will be in the past.


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Freddie H wrote:the first step of intelligent computers
The return of Clippy?
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Freddie H wrote: In new Windows 10 you will get the virtual assistance Cortana, that talk to interact by speech directly with the user. This is the beginning and the first step of intelligent computers that talk to interact with the user. She knows everything about you and she learns everyday about you and your family members, pets, were you eat, what you eat and so on. Like a human assistance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA0Sk28TsP8

Soon mouse and keyboard will be in the past.

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Freddie H wrote: In new Windows 10 you will get the virtual assistance Cortana, that talk to interact by speech directly with the user.
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MrSoundman wrote:
Freddie H wrote:the first step of intelligent computers
The return of Clippy?
Funny, you beat me to it..
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MrSoundman wrote:
jono not bono wrote:Midex 8 works on Win 8.1 (64bit) and with Cubase Pro 8 (64 bit) using Steinberg's unsupported driver! I'm more than happy about this!
Thank you so much for this wonderful news -- makes my day! :D

No Problem!

I've been using it all day. Still no problems with it and still loving how stable Win 8.1 and C Pro 8 is! :)
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silhouette wrote:What happened to Windows 9? :roll:

“early testing revealed just how many third party products had code in the form of Windows 9”, referring to benchmark operating systems Windows 95 and Windows 98.
“This was the pragmatic solution to avoid that.”
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Freddie H wrote:Soon mouse and keyboard will be in the past.
Man machine. Without a keyboard, how would *we* reprogram a computer. Artificial intelligence, just tell it to alter itself. If someone just told you to change, would you? Intelligence? One has got to admire the irony. :lol:
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Hey Cortana, I'm tired, not inspired, and I'm going to bed, make a hit song for me then turn off the computer.
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I've just swapped out my mechanical OS HD for an SSD. Windows 8.1 is flying faster than usual! Wish I had bought one sooner!

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jono not bono wrote:Because I would love to have 3 x 27inch Thunderbolt displays, not forgetting Thunderbolt ports for fast External HDs. Can you even buy PC Monitors that are the equivalent (in both quality and resolution) and don't require a monster graphics card to run all 3?
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jono not bono wrote:
Hedshaker wrote:
jono not bono wrote:Thanks for your replies. I guess I shall stick with Win 7 until I get a Mac then!

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Why would you want to get a Mac? They're no better than a Windows PC performance wise, much less expandable/build-able and a damn site more expensive.

Because I would love to have 3 x 27inch Thunderbolt displays, not forgetting Thunderbolt ports for fast External HDs. Can you even buy PC Monitors that are the equivalent (in both quality and resolution) and don't require a monster graphics card to run all 3?
Why do you need a monster graphics card? Cubase isn't a high end video game! Two el cheapo graphics cards outputting to two monitors each will do the trick. If your Win 7 is stable - back it up an leave it - Windows 7 64 is an outstanding operating system, fast, pretty lean and generally very reliable. I won't upgrade my Win 7 setup until the day Cubase stops working - I suspect that will be a very long time. Macs? Pah overpriced and over-rated - particularly as they are PCs internally anyway - for twice the price.

IMHO Steinberg should spend a few quid and create a Linux distribution optimised to run Cubase and Wavelab - supplied for £20 extra with Cubase. It would be rock solid and they wouldn't need to keep changing their software (introducing pointless bugs) just trying to keep up with OS changes - most people who are serious about music production have a dedicated music PC anyway.
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PeppaPig wrote:
Hedshaker wrote:
jono not bono wrote:Thanks for your replies. I guess I shall stick with Win 7 until I get a Mac then!

Because I would love to have 3 x 27inch Thunderbolt displays, not forgetting Thunderbolt ports for fast External HDs. Can you even buy PC Monitors that are the equivalent (in both quality and resolution) and don't require a monster graphics card to run all 3?
Why do you need a monster graphics card? Cubase isn't a high end video game! Two el cheapo graphics cards outputting to two monitors each will do the trick. If your Win 7 is stable - back it up an leave it - Windows 7 64 is an outstanding operating system, fast, pretty lean and generally very reliable. I won't upgrade my Win 7 setup until the day Cubase stops working - I suspect that will be a very long time. Macs? Pah overpriced and over-rated - particularly as they are PCs internally anyway - for twice the price.

IMHO Steinberg should spend a few quid and create a Linux distribution optimised to run Cubase and Wavelab - supplied for £20 extra with Cubase. It would be rock solid and they wouldn't need to keep changing their software (introducing pointless bugs) just trying to keep up with OS changes - most people who are serious about music production have a dedicated music PC anyway.
I have actually changed to Win 8.1 and love it. Very happy to upgrade from Win 7 (I loved Win 7 by the way). Cubase Pro 8 is working great for me.

I need a new GFX card as mine is utter Dogs Brown. Its a very cheap fanless Nvidia GT520. I get weird mechanical noises when I am not playing Audio and Pixels move about when looking at a blank Desktop . I have decided (just because of Finances) to get a couple of 2.5k Dell screens once I research a suitable GFX Card. This is for a different thread though really.

I'm happy with Win 8.1 and C Pro 8 (now on an SSD).
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