[BON-7133]Hiding tracks with EuCon? HELP Steinberg!

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Re: Hiding tracks with EuCon? HELP Steinberg!

Post by Guillermo » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:46 pm

Hello all,

As I already stated on that very old post, it is a feature request, this is the current state of things:

The EuCon remote controller 3 API3 has been implemented since Cubase Pro 8 and Nuendo 7. That doesn't mean that all features of the API have been implemented into CUBENDO it just means that now all the new features can be implemented. There are many features on the list, one of them is the "Hiding tracks feature"

Also please have in mind that For the EuCon version 3 the installation requires a 64-bit operating systems. Since Cubase 8.0.20 and Nuendo 7 the new EuCon API3 is in use. Please note that the API3 supports 64bit applications only! According to Avid, no 32-bit support is planned for any future release.

At the moment we have implemented some, but others remain in the to do list or are currently OUT OF SCOPE because other have priority.

In conclusion we have the list of all the new supported features that can be implemented with the new EuCon API 3 and we have already implemented the foundation and achieved the first steps to start adding functionality.

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Re: [BON-7133]Hiding tracks with EuCon? HELP Steinberg!

Post by Oliver.Lucas » Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:21 pm

Well, that's good news I guess. I hope it will be possible to show only selected tracks soon in Cubendo.
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Re: Hiding tracks with EuCon? HELP Steinberg!

Post by Svenne » Thu Oct 06, 2016 6:01 pm

Thank you for your reply Guillermo. That clears up some things...
Guillermo wrote:There are many features on the list, one of them is the "Hiding tracks feature"

At the moment we have implemented some, but others remain in the to do list or are currently OUT OF SCOPE because other have priority.

In conclusion we have the list of all the new supported features that can be implemented with the new EuCon API 3 and we have already implemented the foundation and achieved the first steps to start adding functionality.
....But also raises some questions.

Q1:
Who is doing the prioritising? It's not those of us who are supposed to use the software. That's clear.

Q2:
What are all those features that are on the list?

Why not publish the list and let us (who will have to live with the prioritising) "vote" on in which order they should be prioritised. That would be listening to your customers!
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Re: [BON-7133]Hiding tracks with EuCon? HELP Steinberg!

Post by paulhurt » Thu Oct 06, 2016 9:38 pm

Please. Just please. I've been desperate for this feature for years.

The Artist Series surfaces were released by Euphonix, updated, sold to Avid, went thru a colour change, and have just been discontinued... and we still can't hide channels on the surface.

(Currently struggling to finish mixing an 84-channel project where I need to do an hour-long automation pass on channels 26, 31, 35, 39, 45, 49, 60, 61, and 75)

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Re: [BON-7133]Hiding tracks with EuCon? HELP Steinberg!

Post by Svenne » Thu Oct 06, 2016 11:11 pm

paulhurt wrote: and have just been discontinued.
Let's be careful with spreading rumours here. The Control, Mix and Color are still being sold on the Avid site. It appears that it's just the Artist Transport that has been discontinued.
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Re: [BON-7133]Hiding tracks with EuCon? HELP Steinberg!

Post by paulhurt » Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:28 am

I'm quoting straight from Avid's "End Of Life" page - Avid list the the Artist Control v2 (both Avid and Euphonix-branded) as having been discontinued since June this year, and the Artist Transport was discontinued in January. The Artist Mix appears to remain on sale for now.

It's plausible that there are new revisions of the Control and the Transport coming, but it seems unlikely since that territory is now covered by the Pro Tools Dock.

Avid say they will be supporting the Artist devices for another four years though, so not to panic.

To be honest, I'll probably just keep running my Artist Series kit until I have a really good reason to change. S3 isn't selling itself to me so far... not for the money they're asking anyway.
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Re: [BON-7133]Hiding tracks with EuCon? HELP Steinberg!

Post by paulhurt » Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:34 am

By the way, I've cracked and started using layouts and assignments in the Artist Series control panel software. I'm actually more impressed than I thought I'd be... it's a little bit slow to set up, but I hadn't realised you can still bank through other channels on the unassigned faders, while the faders you've assigned to channels remain fixed in place.

The other advantage is that you still have immediate access to all the other channels in the Nuendo mixer, so if you have to tweak a channel that's not on the surface, it's right there on-screen (which it might not be if you'd hidden lots of tracks in the Nuendo mixer in order to rearrange channels on the hardware fader surface).

Ah shucks, whatever. Back to work.

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Re: [BON-7133]Hiding tracks with EuCon? HELP Steinberg!

Post by Raphie » Fri Oct 07, 2016 8:50 am

Can you also assign ARTIST faders via EUcontrol remote editor? I know how to do program the transport, but would love to program the Artist as well?
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Re: [BON-7133]Hiding tracks with EuCon? HELP Steinberg!

Post by paulhurt » Fri Oct 07, 2016 5:37 pm

The EUControl application is exactly where this function is. In the "Assign" section of EuControl you can choose to lock any fader strip on the Artist Mix or Artist Control to a particular channel in Nuendo. The save your fader assignments in the "Layouts" section so you can switch between any sets of fader assignments you create.

It's pretty basic and non-graphical, but it works.

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Re: Hiding tracks with EuCon? HELP Steinberg!

Post by J-S-Q » Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:30 pm

Guillermo wrote:Hello all,

As I already stated on that very old post, it is a feature request, this is the current state of things:

The EuCon remote controller 3 API3 has been implemented since Cubase Pro 8 and Nuendo 7. That doesn't mean that all features of the API have been implemented into CUBENDO it just means that now all the new features can be implemented. There are many features on the list, one of them is the "Hiding tracks feature"

Also please have in mind that For the EuCon version 3 the installation requires a 64-bit operating systems. Since Cubase 8.0.20 and Nuendo 7 the new EuCon API3 is in use. Please note that the API3 supports 64bit applications only! According to Avid, no 32-bit support is planned for any future release.

At the moment we have implemented some, but others remain in the to do list or are currently OUT OF SCOPE because other have priority.

In conclusion we have the list of all the new supported features that can be implemented with the new EuCon API 3 and we have already implemented the foundation and achieved the first steps to start adding functionality.

Best regards,
GN
Thanks taking the time to reply Guillermo. At least we know that hiding tracks is now technically possible. From this post though, it's not entirely clear whether it is a) already implemented b) on the to do list for future implementation or c) out of scope and never to be implemented. Hopefully it's in category a.

I look forward to Cubase 9! :)
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Re: [BON-7133]Hiding tracks with EuCon? HELP Steinberg

Post by Raphie » Sun Oct 09, 2016 1:12 pm

@Guillermo, can you post a list or document explaining what's currently implemented to support Cubase with Eucon.
2 currently not documented features are:
Hold INSERT long > control VSTi control editor settings
hold EQ long > control Track quick controls in non CHA mode (love it)

For example i would love the INSERTS to work in non CHA as well, while still splash out to CHA mode if needed.
This is implemented for VSTi and Track Quick Controls, but not for Inserts
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Re: [BON-7133]Hiding tracks with EuCon? HELP Steinberg!

Post by nsharpstudios » Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:15 pm

Has this ever been resolved? Wanting to get an S6 but without MixConsole mirroring that would be a waste. Thank you.
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Post by benniknop » Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:51 pm

Can't believe track visibility on the artist mix still doesn't follow Nuendo.
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Re: [BON-7133]Hiding tracks with EuCon? HELP Steinberg!

Post by arichlsss » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:14 am

Would Love To See Eucon S3 Track Visibility Follow the Cubase Mixer....Please :)

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Re: [BON-7133]Hiding tracks with EuCon? HELP Steinberg!

Post by beatpete » Sun Dec 23, 2018 1:43 am

arichlsss wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:14 am
Would Love To See Eucon S3 Track Visibility Follow the Cubase Mixer....Please :)
Me too!!!
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Re: [BON-7133]Hiding tracks with EuCon? HELP Steinberg!

Post by beatpete » Mon May 13, 2019 3:53 pm

bump
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