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Delete Ending Measures

Post by JimGramze » Sat Oct 22, 2016 3:34 am

It seems simple enough to add measures at the beginning, end, and even the middle of the score. What I can't figure out how to do is to delete measures at the end of a piece, like I added a few too many and want to get rid of the ending few empty measures. Any help would be appreciated.

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Post by Daniel at Steinberg » Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:16 pm

To remove bars, put the caret at the position where you want to delete bars, type Shift+B, and into the popover type e.g. -4 to delete 4 bars.

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Post by delgado » Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:29 pm

thanks Daniel.
is that an interim solution? Obviously when I have pages of empty bars to delete (not an unrealistic scenario), I'll be happy not to have to provide an exact bar number.
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Post by Daniel at Steinberg » Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:31 pm

To delete all of the bars at the end of the flow, choose Write > Trim Flow.

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Post by JimGramze » Sun Oct 23, 2016 3:32 am

Daniel at Steinberg wrote:To remove bars, put the caret at the position where you want to delete bars, type Shift+B, and into the popover type e.g. -4 to delete 4 bars.
Yes, that works brilliantly. Thanks so much, Daniel!

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Post by Runter vom Sofa » Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:31 am

Daniel at Steinberg wrote:To delete all of the bars at the end of the flow, choose Write > Trim Flow.
I mentioned this problem in another thread: The final system of one particular flow is filled vertically to fill the frame, but not horizontally. I've added a few bars and deleted them with Shift+B and a minus sign, to try and kickstart some engine. Whatever method I've chosen, I end up with one out of two:

• The page is not filled horisontally to the frame.
• Or there is a "tacet al fine" in all instruments of the score.

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Post by kjonsson » Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:46 am

The "tacet al fine" will from what I gathered be possible to get rid of in coming updates, it was discussed in another thread. (Also the perhaps not super necessary "1" above single empty bars will be adressed. )

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Post by Daniel at Steinberg » Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:17 pm

To make the final system reach the right-hand margin, go to the Note Spacing page of Layout Options and switch off 'Only justify final system in flow...'.

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Post by delgado » Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:41 pm

Daniel at Steinberg wrote:To delete all of the bars at the end of the flow, choose Write > Trim Flow.
that is fine if I want to delete them all, but not if I want more discretion over how many (empty) bars to leave in the score.
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Re: Delete Ending Measures

Post by Rob Tuley » Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:10 pm

You can delete all the existing empty bars and then create the number you really want. Type +4 in the popover to create 4 empty bars, for example.

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Post by delgado » Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:27 am

Rob Tuley wrote:You can delete all the existing empty bars and then create the number you really want. Type +4 in the popover to create 4 empty bars, for example.
Suppose I have xxx consecutive bars to delete, but want to keep the last yy bars, that are populated. Some sort of direct "select bar" mode does seem imperative, here.
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Re: Delete Ending Measures

Post by Daniel at Steinberg » Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:34 am

For now, at least, you would position the caret at the start of the xxx bars, type Shift+B, type -z (where z is the number of bars in xxx you want to delete), and that should leave you with what you expected.

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Re: Delete Ending Measures

Post by Rob Tuley » Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:57 am

delgado wrote:Suppose I have xxx consecutive bars to delete, but want to keep the last yy bars, that are populated. Some sort of direct "select bar" mode does seem imperative, here.
I just love it when you answer somebody's question, and they turn round and say, "no, the real question was something different"...

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Post by delgado » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:14 am

Rob Tuley wrote:
delgado wrote:Suppose I have xxx consecutive bars to delete, but want to keep the last yy bars, that are populated. Some sort of direct "select bar" mode does seem imperative, here.
I just love it when you answer somebody's question, and they turn round and say, "no, the real question was something different"...
and I apologize for that, it was really meant as a further question.
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Re: Delete Ending Measures

Post by siniavski » Wed Aug 02, 2017 4:11 pm

I am trying to get rid of Tacet al Fine and nothing works. Tried Write-Trim flow but did not work. Please help!

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Post by siniavski » Wed Aug 02, 2017 4:18 pm

Figured that out. Sorry!

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Post by Cyrdup » Sun Sep 10, 2017 8:34 pm

Daniel at Steinberg wrote:
Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:31 pm
To delete all of the bars at the end of the flow, choose Write > Trim Flow.
Hi. I tried that but it doesn't work for me...
I have to say that I had to change a mesure with no time signature (X) and that it changed the time signature of the subsequent bar. I manage to get the good time signature where I needed, but this undeletable bar appeared at the end. I can't even write in it: It'll continue to create always this one more bar. I can't make it fit in a system either... it's like a "wild bar"...
last bar.png
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Any help would be welcome :)

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Post by pianoleo » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:09 pm

Cyrdup, what a mess you've got yourself into! I think you've somehow created the penultimate barline manually, then added the 1/8 time signature, and then added a system break to your manually created barline.
  • Turn on View > Signposts > System breaks.
  • Delete the system break on the final bar.
  • Delete the 1/8 time signature.
  • Add a new 1/8 time signature where the old one was.
  • Go to Write > Trim flow
Problem solved.

P.S. What an interesting-looking score - it's great to see what Dorico can do :)
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Re: Delete Ending Measures

Post by Cyrdup » Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:39 pm

Thank you!!!
I don't know my self what I did... but you saved me :)

Dorico is such a good software. I can't wait to see what it'll become :)

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