Quarter tone accidental bug and temporary fix

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Quarter tone accidental bug and temporary fix

Post by jhall » Sat Oct 22, 2016 12:41 pm

Since quarter tones accidentals doesn't appear when clicking on them, I tried making new ones. This, however, makes Dorico crash. I instead tried making changes to an existing quarter tone accidental.

This was what I did, the bug is reproducable every time:
24-EDO is selected in Tonality System.
Using the microtonal accidentals that appear under the Accidentals menu does nothing.
Click edit button for 24-EDO .
Selecting three-quarter-tones sharp (sharp), click edit.
Now JUST click ok. Trying to use the accidental now on a note creates the triple sharp (triplesharp.gould).

A workaround that worked for me is changing the accidental for triple sharp to three-quarter-tones sharp accidental.
You then loose the triple sharp but at least it's possible to notate quarter tones.
Strangely enough, now the triple sharp accidental does nothing but the quarter tone accidental works.

The biggest problem (apart from the accidental buttons not doing anything by default) seems to be that Dorico somehow wrongly connects three-quarter-tones sharp and triple sharp.

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Re: Quarter tone accidental bug and temporary fix

Post by Daniel at Steinberg » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:13 pm

All of this is not quite working as it should at the moment, I'm afraid. I would expect that it will be working much better in the first post-release update.

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Re: Quarter tone accidental bug and temporary fix

Post by jhall » Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:22 am

Daniel at Steinberg wrote:All of this is not quite working as it should at the moment, I'm afraid. I would expect that it will be working much better in the first post-release update.
That is great to hear. Can''t wait for the updates, Dorico is already so much better than existing notation programs!

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Re: Quarter tone accidental bug and temporary fix

Post by ryanwms » Fri Oct 28, 2016 9:32 pm

Daniel at Steinberg wrote:All of this is not quite working as it should at the moment, I'm afraid. I would expect that it will be working much better in the first post-release update.
When do you anticipate this bug fix being released?
I'm teaching myself to use Dorico with a "real" composition project that I'll need to submit to the performers around the first of the year. So far I'm loving it - I don't want to have to "fall back" to the other program you guys used to do. ;)

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Re: Quarter tone accidental bug and temporary fix

Post by gratkowski » Sat Oct 29, 2016 4:18 am

Will there be different accidentals in for quarter tones in the future? I'm using mirrored flats and sharps with one or three vertical lines. These are the most used especially when you also use eight tones.

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Re: Quarter tone accidental bug and temporary fix

Post by gratkowski » Sat Oct 29, 2016 4:20 am

If there are any updates in to come I'm also happy to try out beta releases as the actual version is quite useless for me.

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Re: Quarter tone accidental bug and temporary fix

Post by AlbenBerg » Sun Dec 11, 2016 11:44 am

How could I put quarter tones? Where's the symbols? I don't see them !

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Re: Quarter tone accidental bug and temporary fix

Post by chikitin » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:24 am

jhall method does not work for me! When should have this fixed? Thank you.
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Re: Quarter tone accidental bug and temporary fix

Post by chikitin » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:27 am

AlbenBerg wrote:How could I put quarter tones? Where's the symbols? I don't see them !
Go to Write tab. Click on ## ( on the right) to access key signatures.
Click on Tonality System and Choose Equal Temperament ( 23-EDO)
All the accidentals are at the bottom of the right panel.

But as Daniels says, none of them are working.

I suppose since they are included in the shipped software, they are priorities for the developers. I am excited to see this working!

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Re: Quarter tone accidental bug and temporary fix

Post by Daniel at Steinberg » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:27 am

The accidentals will all start working if you first create an open or atonal key signature in the chosen tonality system, like this:

1. Choose the tonality system you want to use from the panel in Write mode.
2. At the start of your flow, select the initial clef or the initial note or rest and type Shift+K.
3. Into the popover, type "open" or "atonal" and hit Return.

Now you can use the accidentals shown for that tonality system.

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Re: Quarter tone accidental bug and temporary fix

Post by markbowler » Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:24 pm

My first day with Dorico and my first question answered almost immediately. I like this software already ;) Thanks Daniel.

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