Full Symphony Orchestra - Saving - 6 seconds delay?

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Full Symphony Orchestra - Saving - 6 seconds delay?

Post by amanda_film+music » Mon Apr 03, 2017 5:47 am

Hello,

A question for the Dorico users writing for full symphony orchestra.

Is it normal that every time I save, it is taking 7 seconds delay (spinning ball) before I can resume work again?

Is there any thing I can do to speed this up so there is not this such a delay? I am just using the HALion SONIC SE that Dorico comes with.

Any thoughts?

Many thanks!

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Re: Full Symphony Orchestra - Saving - 6 seconds delay?

Post by Daniel at Steinberg » Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:19 am

It can take a few seconds to save the state of your loaded VST instruments, though I would expect on a Mac Pro with (I assume) high-speed SSD storage it should be about as quick as it's possible to be. How many instances of HALion are loaded in Play mode?

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Post by amanda_film+music » Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:51 am

Hi Daniel,

Thanks so much now for chiming in.

I have 3 instances opened, and I have a 6 core Mac Pro, with an SSD, but it is still taking 7 seconds every time I save.
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Post by Daniel at Steinberg » Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:15 am

Can you try doing File > Save As to save a copy of your project, then in Play mode go and remove each instance of HALion Sonic SE either by clicking the trash can to delete them or by choosing the '---' entry from the list of installed plug-ins on your system, then save the project and see how quickly it saves?

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Post by amanda_film+music » Tue Apr 04, 2017 3:08 pm

OK, indeed, I will try this and report back!

Many thanks again!
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Re: Full Symphony Orchestra - Saving - 6 seconds delay?

Post by amanda_film+music » Fri Apr 14, 2017 7:08 am

Hi Daniel,

I tried what you suggested (deleted all instances of HALion) and indeed there was no delay with the saving. So the delay is clearly a VST issue....like you suspected.

While we are on the topic of delay, I am also having latency issues when I play in music. There is really slow response from Dorico. Can you suggest ways that this could be improved?

Is there a settings preference to improve this?

Many thanks,

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Post by PaulWalmsley » Fri Apr 14, 2017 9:07 am

Do you mean latency when you enter notes on a MIDI keyboard? If so this is something that is fixed in the next update
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Post by amanda_film+music » Fri Apr 14, 2017 9:46 am

That is exactly right.

So does this mean it will be fixed in the next update AFTER version 1.0.30 correct?

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Post by Daniel at Steinberg » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:47 am

Yes, that's right: it will be improved in the next update, coming later in the spring.

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Post by amanda_film+music » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:49 am

Great news!
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Re: Full Symphony Orchestra - Saving - 6 seconds delay?

Post by hpve » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:41 am

I tried what you suggested (deleted all instances of HALion) in an imported xml file from Sibelius, but I still have to wait many seconds saving and working on this file. I have also made a support ticket one month ago (#23474) but didn't hear anything yet.
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Post by John at Steinberg » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:56 pm

Hi

I got your file from support earlier and had a look - I think you'll have had a reply from them now?
I don't know for certain, but the delay may well have been that support were heavily involved with manning the Messe.

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Re: Full Symphony Orchestra - Saving - 6 seconds delay?

Post by hpve » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:11 am

Thank you very much; I did have a reply now.
But my question is still: I deleted all instances of Halion but I still have to wait many seconds saving and deleting players from a flow.
Can you affirm this behaviour on that file?
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Re: Full Symphony Orchestra - Saving - 6 seconds delay?

Post by John at Steinberg » Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:13 pm

I think it was 3-4 seconds, yes.

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