How do I typeset #2

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How do I typeset #2

Post by joearms » Sat Jul 15, 2017 3:12 pm

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How do I typset this (bar 33 of Chopin Ballade #1) - the famous
"squashed flies" bar
18 notes in the space of 3 crotchets

/Jo

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Re: How do I typeset #2

Post by Derrek » Sat Jul 15, 2017 4:57 pm

I used a hidden 18:6 tuplet to reproduce what you showed. The real problem are the small noteheads, not yet available.
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Re: How do I typeset #2

Post by Claude Lapalme » Sat Jul 15, 2017 7:52 pm

Not so fast!

Creating 8th note grace notes before the first note of the next bar, removing the slash and choosing "place before bar line" will generally place a large group of grace notes as far right as possible, like so:
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But of course, the left hand notes will not necessarily align, so we can then using the brand new note spacing tool:
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With this final result:
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Note that there will be an added system break which you may wish to place elsewhere as you do final edits.
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Re: How do I typeset #2

Post by joearms » Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:23 am

Claude Lapalme wrote:
Sat Jul 15, 2017 7:52 pm
Not so fast!

Creating 8th note grace notes before the first note of the next bar, removing the slash and choosing "place before bar line" will generally place a large group of grace notes as far right as possible, like so:

Chopin1.jpg

But of course, the left hand notes will not necessarily align, so we can then using the brand new note spacing tool:

Chopin2.jpg

With this final result:

Chopin3.jpg

Note that there will be an added system break which you may wish to place elsewhere as you do final edits.
Brilliant - thanks a lot

Once had two problems - how to typeset this (which you have answered) - then how to play it.

I think the latter is more problematic :-)

/Joe

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Re: How do I typeset #2

Post by Claude Lapalme » Sun Jul 16, 2017 5:17 pm

Of course, one gets accurate playback using Derrek's method. Eventually, we will get small noteheads.
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