tempo marking with "a tempo" and "piu mosso"

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tempo marking with "a tempo" and "piu mosso"

Post by Rebecca Louise » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:08 pm

I know how to enter "a tempo" and "piu mosso." But, I want to enter "a tempo q=68" or "piu mosso q = 56"
When I try to do that it only enters the words but not the metronome marking.
I tried putting an extra space between words in "a tempo" and then it would add the metronome marking too, but that didn't work with "piu mosso."
I don't want to use a text box for the words because it needs to show in all the parts.
How to do it? Thanks!

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Re: tempo marking with "a tempo" and "piu mosso"

Post by MarcLarcher » Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:01 pm

Indeed, you cannot add such metronome markings with relative tempi (I guess the ones not starting with a capital letter). Maybe you could add the metronome marking as a new tempo right after the relative tempo (a crotchet later or so).
The other option would be a system text marking (not just text, shift X, but system text, alt-shift-X. You may not have that shortcut working, if you have created you own shortcuts before the 1.1.0 update, so you may want to add it, in the preferences). It will not affect the playback, but will look exactly as you want it to.
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Re: tempo marking with "a tempo" and "piu mosso"

Post by LSalgueiro » Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:17 pm

I would suggest the inverse of what Marc is saying: force Dorico to understand the marking as an immediate tempo marking (since that's really what a tempo or a più mosso is, really) instead. You could enter the metronome mark into the tempo popover, as you're doing now, and entering the text later via the Properties panel.

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Re: tempo marking with "a tempo" and "piu mosso"

Post by MarcLarcher » Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:44 pm

Dear LSalgueiro,
I agree with you: it would be better to force Dorico to understand as you say… The question is HOW ???
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Re: tempo marking with "a tempo" and "piu mosso"

Post by LSalgueiro » Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:49 pm

As I said: if you enter just a metronome marking, Dorico will have nothing to interpret but the marking. You can than enter the text via the Properties panel (and not the popover) and it won't be interpreted as a gradual tempo change. Am I wrong in this?

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Re: tempo marking with "a tempo" and "piu mosso"

Post by JulianBennettHolmes » Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:18 pm

That's right. What I usually do is enter something like "Allegro q=120" and then open the properties panel and change the "Allegro" to "Tempo I" or whatever text I actually want there. Hopefully this will be simpler in future versions.
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Re: tempo marking with "a tempo" and "piu mosso"

Post by MarcLarcher » Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:24 pm

Great workaround!
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Re: tempo marking with "a tempo" and "piu mosso"

Post by Rebecca Louise » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:24 am

Thanks to you both!

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