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Re: Stream Deck macro keypad

Post by dankreider » Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:29 am

Rob Tuley wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:20 am
I wonder what the long term reliability of Stream Deck used for an app like Dorico will be.

If you use it to control cameras etc for live streaming (which is was designed for) you probably only press a button every few minutes on average, not every few seconds.
Rob, I think I may be at the vanguard for this sort of testing. My main use of Stream Deck is Alt-L and Alt-R (and Ct-Alt) for note and lyric spacing. I don’t have a way to log keystrokes, but I have probably pressed those keys 20,000 times in the past couple months. The buttons feel as crisp as ever.
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Re: Stream Deck macro keypad

Post by David Tee » Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:28 am

Rob Tuley wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:20 am
I wonder what the long term reliability of Stream Deck used for an app like Dorico will be.

If you use it to control cameras etc for live streaming (which is was designed for) you probably only press a button every few minutes on average, not every few seconds.
I'd imagine the answer to that will come from the Gaming community first....
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Re: Stream Deck macro keypad

Post by sjanssens » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:57 pm

Rob Tuley wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:20 am
I wonder what the long term reliability of Stream Deck used for an app like Dorico will be.

If you use it to control cameras etc for live streaming (which is was designed for) you probably only press a button every few minutes on average, not every few seconds.
The build quality of the unit is very good. It will take time tell for sure, but it only took about an hour for the stream deck to become indispensable for me. If it breaks in a year, I'll be slightly miffed, but I'll quickly buy a replacement. I'm already thinking about getting a 2nd unit for my day job (unrelated to music).

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Re: Stream Deck macro keypad

Post by Romanos401 » Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:42 pm

sjanssens wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:57 pm
Rob Tuley wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:20 am
I wonder what the long term reliability of Stream Deck used for an app like Dorico will be.

If you use it to control cameras etc for live streaming (which is was designed for) you probably only press a button every few minutes on average, not every few seconds.
The build quality of the unit is very good. It will take time tell for sure, but it only took about an hour for the stream deck to become indispensable for me. If it breaks in a year, I'll be slightly miffed, but I'll quickly buy a replacement. I'm already thinking about getting a 2nd unit for my day job (unrelated to music).
Fortunately for me my day job is music, however I’ve programmed a slew of commands for other programs that I use as well. This, in combination with keyboard maestro, has really improved certain workflows... quite drastically in some cases.
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Re: Stream Deck macro keypad

Post by PF Slow » Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:25 am

I'm looking at Stream Deck and Stream Deck Mobile.

I see that Stream Deck Mobile will work on iPhone or iPad. Ok... I have a few iOS devices and can dedicate one to the cause but I have a question. When on an iPad, is it limited to the same 15 button display as a smaller iOS device?

If the limit is 15, not understanding the point. Might as well spring for the Stream Deck XL so that I have 32 buttons.
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Post by steveparker » Tue Feb 04, 2020 1:12 am

Yes it is 15 on iPhone and ipad...for now at least. It works well though.

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Re: Stream Deck macro keypad

Post by Philip R » Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:16 am

I'd love to see Stream Deck Mobile on iPad that emulated the 32-key XL setup. It's up to Elgato.

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Re: Stream Deck macro keypad

Post by Philip R » Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:14 pm

Some solid updates today across the Notation Express line. As ever, thanks to Leo for the nice Dorico improvements!

https://www.scoringnotes.com/meta/notat ... nd-dorico/

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Re: Stream Deck macro keypad

Post by prko » Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:14 pm

Could Dorico team develop a similar app for iOS and Android if lots of users think a pad is necessary?
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Post by steveparker » Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:35 pm

Philip R wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:16 am
I'd love to see Stream Deck Mobile on iPad that emulated the 32-key XL setup. It's up to Elgato.
Me too!

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Re: Stream Deck macro keypad

Post by steveparker » Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:40 pm

Some nice tweaks to Notation Express in the update.

My hint of the day:
I've created task-specific single page Streamdeck profiles, such as 'keyboard editing' and 'note input'. I've copied (or created) my most used shortcuts in each one. So the keyboard editing page has pedal, pedal retake, arpeggios up and down, slurs, gliss., cross-staff above and below, zoom in and out, 3-slash tremelo, and a couple of voice swap options.

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Re: Stream Deck macro keypad

Post by prko » Mon Feb 17, 2020 10:49 pm

https://www.touch-portal.com/

It seems the touch portal could be an alternative. I have not tried it yet.
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Re: Stream Deck macro keypad

Post by Philip R » Mon Feb 17, 2020 10:49 pm

prko wrote:
Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:14 pm
Could Dorico team develop a similar app for iOS and Android if lots of users think a pad is necessary?
The 15-key version of Notation Express runs on iPhone via the Stream Deck mobile app:

https://www.scoringnotes.com/meta/notat ... ow-on-ios/

It actually runs on iPad too but only in the 15-key configuration so the buttons are quite large.

As far as the larger version (XL) for iPad, well, we've got some things cooking…

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Re: Stream Deck macro keypad

Post by Philip R » Mon Feb 17, 2020 10:50 pm

steveparker wrote:
Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:40 pm
Some nice tweaks to Notation Express in the update.

My hint of the day:
I've created task-specific single page Streamdeck profiles, such as 'keyboard editing' and 'note input'. I've copied (or created) my most used shortcuts in each one. So the keyboard editing page has pedal, pedal retake, arpeggios up and down, slurs, gliss., cross-staff above and below, zoom in and out, 3-slash tremelo, and a couple of voice swap options.
Nice ideas! Thanks for sharing.

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Re: Stream Deck macro keypad

Post by Philip R » Mon Feb 17, 2020 10:51 pm

prko wrote:
Mon Feb 17, 2020 10:49 pm
https://www.touch-portal.com/

It seems the touch portal could be an alternative. I have not tried it yet.
I actually went quite far down this road. There were roadblocks, though, and I suspended the effort. But, some other ideas are brewing.

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Re: Stream Deck macro keypad

Post by prko » Mon Feb 17, 2020 10:59 pm

Oh. I currently only use android devices...
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Re: Stream Deck macro keypad

Post by prko » Mon Feb 17, 2020 11:58 pm

If a laptop offers such a keypad on the left side of the trackpad and a Numpad on the right side of the trackpad, it would be really great!
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Re: Stream Deck macro keypad

Post by prko » Mon Feb 17, 2020 11:59 pm

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Re: Stream Deck macro keypad

Post by eboats » Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:00 am

delgado wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:32 pm


I use two regular and one XL decks, and have removed them from their stands/housings, to clamp them into gooseneck holders like this one https://www.amazon.com/Tryone-Gooseneck ... J68MMHNV7B
very handy as you can accomodate every new visual feedback/ergonomic requirement on the fly, and it's not cramming the real estate of whatever you have below your monitors (desk or keyboard)- the stream decks float exactly where you need them, and adjust with a flick of the hand.
Are you using this gooseneck holder with the Stream Deck XL? The measurement description looks like it may not be big enough for the XL?

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Re: Stream Deck macro keypad

Post by HeiPet » Wed Feb 19, 2020 1:44 pm

Philip R wrote:
Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:14 pm
Some solid updates today across the Notation Express line. As ever, thanks to Leo for the nice Dorico improvements!

https://www.scoringnotes.com/meta/notat ... nd-dorico/
Are there updates for the German version as well?

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Re: Stream Deck macro keypad

Post by Andre » Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:49 pm

I still don’t understand why this app is subscription based. It connects from my iPhone to my computer using my WiFi. What are the makers offering after I buy the app?
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Post by pianoleo » Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:51 pm

They’re providing the platform on which Notation Express is built. If you buy a physical Stream Deck you get the use of that same platform on a permanent basis. If you don’t buy a physical Stream Deck then Elgato still expect to be paid for the use of their platform.
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Post by composerjk » Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:09 pm

pianoleo wrote:
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Post by Pietzcker » Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:09 am

HeiPet wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 1:44 pm
Are there updates for the German version as well?
I have been busy (and still am), but I'll try to get something done over the weekend :)

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Post by delgado » Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:03 am

eboats wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:00 am


Are you using this gooseneck holder with the Stream Deck XL? The measurement description looks like it may not be big enough for the XL?
the XL is the only one that's "grounded" (its cover /stand is very nicely crafted, and I had just the space required available on the dashboard of the master keyboard) -- with the holder linked above, it won't fit/stay, but there are similar models that will do the job, you'll have to read the spec closely when shopping. Problem is less the width/height than the depth of the XL.
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