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Force octave lines to ignore tied notes when 8vb begins mid-tie?

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:50 pm
by FinaleMakesMeCry
Before I fake this or use a l.v. tie with rest or third staff or something, is there a way to force octave lines ignore tie chains when they occur in the midst of them?

Example of the problem:
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Or perhaps a way to get octave lines to apply to just one voice, though I probably wouldn't want that globally in a project.

Re: Force octave lines to ignore tied notes when 8vb begins mid-tie?

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:56 pm
by pianoleo
In this case your best bet is to apply the 8va line to only one voice.

1. Set the caret on the bottom stave.
2. Hit V until the correct voice is showing.
3. Type Shift+C 8ba Alt+Enter Space
Note that the 8va won’t show until you’ve hit Space.
4. Extend as necessary using Space, or by selecting the end handle and either dragging or using Shift+Alt+Arrows.

Re: Force octave lines to ignore tied notes when 8vb begins mid-tie?

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:29 pm
by FinaleMakesMeCry
pianoleo wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:56 pm
In this case your best bet is to apply the 8va line to only one voice.

1. Set the caret on the bottom stave.
2. Hit V until the correct voice is showing.
3. Type Shift+C 8ba Enter Space
Note that the 8va won’t show until you’ve hit Space.
4. Extend as necessary using Space, or by selecting the end handle and either dragging or using Shift+Alt+Arrows.
This actually produces the same result - is there something I need to turn on in one of the options windows for it to work?

Re: Force octave lines to ignore tied notes when 8vb begins mid-tie?

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:37 pm
by pianoleo
Sorry, the fatal mistake I made was in step 3. You need to close the popover with Alt+Enter, not Enter. Long week...

Re: Force octave lines to ignore tied notes when 8vb begins mid-tie?

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:48 pm
by Rob Tuley
You can simplify steps 1 2 and 4 as well. Just select the note(s) in the correct voice and type Shift-C 8ba Alt-Enter. You don't need to use the note entry cursor.

Re: Force octave lines to ignore tied notes when 8vb begins mid-tie?

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:49 pm
by FinaleMakesMeCry
pianoleo wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:37 pm
Sorry, the fatal mistake I made was in step 3. You need to close the popover with Alt+Enter, not Enter. Long week...
Oh wow, ok that works yes, thanks! Alt-enter? Man, there are so many hidden things in Dorico...

Re: Force octave lines to ignore tied notes when 8vb begins mid-tie?

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:03 pm
by MarcLarcher
Alt-enter a popover is the usual technique to create an independent key, meter, octave line, dynamic... Quite a useful tool!

Re: Force octave lines to ignore tied notes when 8vb begins mid-tie?

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:40 pm
by FinaleMakesMeCry
MarcLarcher wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:03 pm
Alt-enter a popover is the usual technique to create an independent key, meter, octave line, dynamic... Quite a useful tool!
That is very good to know!