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Re: 9.0.20 experience so far?

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 2:17 pm
by silhouette
Audio dropouts and freezes seem to be the order of the day for me. I am back with 9.0.10 for the time being. Having said that the audio dropouts started with Cubase 9???

Re: 9.0.20 experience so far?

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 2:35 pm
by SteelyDani
Two different computers here, with different audio cards and in none of them have I had the slightest problem, which makes me think that the solution from software code to dropouts, spikes and freezes might not be easy to find.

Re: 9.0.20 experience so far?

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 8:19 pm
by AP
So far so good except for the broken virtual keyboard and the VST Performance needs improvements.

Re: 9.0.20 experience so far?

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 8:39 pm
by Jazzhands
Rock solid for me!

Re: 9.0.20 experience so far?

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 9:25 pm
by zipb
silhouette wrote:Audio dropouts and freezes seem to be the order of the day for me. I am back with 9.0.10 for the time being. Having said that the audio dropouts started with Cubase 9???
Have you checked your RME/soundcard driver? Is it the latest? Someone else said the difference was night and day for him(between the latest and previous RME driver, that is)

Re: 9.0.20 experience so far?

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 12:44 am
by Sonik
Jazzhands wrote:Rock solid for me!
OSX or Win?

Re: 9.0.20 experience so far?

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 8:31 am
by kdogg456
CPU usage is much higher with VST's on OSX. Really want to use 9 but version 8.0.35 is still the best, super responsive and CPU use is excellent.

Re: 9.0.20 experience so far?

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 3:36 pm
by Oliver17
Very unstable. Crashes and freezes all the time. At the moment I am really frustrated.

Re: 9.0.20 experience so far?

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 5:16 pm
by shore
I am back with 9.0.10 for the time being. The VST3 / Plugin Alliance problems that were solved with moving to VST 2.4 for those plugins I own was back with a vengeance.
  • > Cubase freeze.
    > Bursts of noise.
    > While playing back a mix randomly playing other bits of audio additionally.
Of course, all gone in 9.0.10.
I'm on Win10, 64bit, latest drivers, focusrite interfaces.

Sven
http://www.svenhorlemann.com

Re: 9.0.20 experience so far?

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 5:26 pm
by Weasel
There is something wrong with 9.0.20.

Projects created prior to 9.0.20 were playing back with an unusual amount of CPU spikes. I raised the latency to a higher number and that settled it down...but not completely.

I always let a freshly launched Project play through before working on it, so Cubase can roll over the spots where the introduction of some instrument track parts would spike and register, clearing up on the next playback and for the rest of the session. With 9.0.20, this wasn't happening. And many of these Projects were using less than 8 Instruments and audio combined.

I rolled back to 9.0.10, dropped latency back to it's smaller setting (192ms), and ran the same tunes. No spikes or dropouts. To me, that's quantifiable evidence that something is amiss.

This is the first revision of Cubase I've had to roll back to in ages and I find it rather disappointing.

Re: 9.0.20 experience so far?

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 6:18 pm
by pondwalden
I also had to roll back. Crazy interface slowdowns were causing the GUI on some large projects to respond more than a full second after clicking the mouse.

Hoping for Steiny to figure out the Mac interface issues.

Re: 9.0.20 experience so far?

Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 10:24 am
by Lasso
Weasel wrote:There is something wrong with 9.0.20.

Projects created prior to 9.0.20 were playing back with an unusual amount of CPU spikes. I raised the latency to a higher number and that settled it down...but not completely.
My experience too - at least for one of my projects - only seemed to happen on the first playback on .20 though but no sure. No more spikes at least but can't judge the total CPU consumption without rolling back, which I'm not ready to do yet.

Re: 9.0.20 experience so far?

Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 1:24 pm
by audioguy
I won't roll back but these audio glitches when just moving midi notes or scrolling editors, project page are rather annoying but it could be the audio driver (Roland SonicCell) which was not actually made for Windows 10.

Re: 9.0.20 experience so far?

Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 6:54 pm
by Weasel
My experience too - at least for one of my projects - only seemed to happen on the first playback on .20 though but no sure.
This behavior has been the norm for me since Cubase 7. Typically, I let the Project run through once to let it glitch at various points where different Instrument track parts show up along the timeline....then the next playback is good to go. But not with 9.0.20. The glitches continue until I raise the buffer to what I consider an unusable amount for recording. Rolling back to 9.0.10 fixed the problem for me.

Has anyone noticed that Steinberg has left the the 9.0.10 update link at the top of the forum page? Usually, they remove the previous version from up there. I think they are aware that 9.0.20 is problematic for some (or many) users and left the 9.0.10 link as a safety measure.

Re: 9.0.20 experience so far?

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 8:45 pm
by ralphprice
I purchased a copy of Cubase 9 Pro and then upgraded to include Groove Agent 4, Halion 6 (with sonic) and Grand Se 3. Then made the mistake of loading Dorico 1 to see what it would be like. Now keep getting a message about Halion Symphonic Orcehestra Factory Presets 1 not being loaded. Uninstalled Dorico and it still appears. Now whenever I try to add a Halion Sonic instrument the whole thing corrupts and and I get the 'save your project under a different filename and restart' message. Bitterly disappointed at how unstable Cubase 9 is now.

Anyone have a solution? :(

Re: 9.0.20 experience so far?

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 9:48 am
by extralife
kdogg456 wrote:CPU usage is much higher with VST's on OSX. Really want to use 9 but version 8.0.35 is still the best, super responsive and CPU use is excellent.
Exactly the same here.

Re: 9.0.20 experience so far?

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 9:56 am
by pkmusic
Horrible. Random audio dropouts from previously good projects. I am actually hesitant to call this software professional.

Re: 9.0.20 experience so far?

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 10:45 am
by zipb
I had a real recording session last night(real in the sense of using an improvised vocal booth, talkback, punch ins, cycle recording, take comping, quickly adding backing vocals, trying out different ideas), the works.
I will normally bounce everything to stems to reduce clutter, but I didn't do that this time, so I had at least 8 VI's running, plus a bunch of audio tracks.
No problems or hiccups. I even got my copy of Cubase iC Pro to work(shouldn't work with iOS10.3.2, but it did)
Smooth session. I was able to concentrate on the job, and I had fun too. Lovely.

Re: 9.0.20 experience so far?

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 10:00 pm
by audiofrq
I'm on OSX 10.10 on a macbook pro.

Like I mentioned in a previous thread, 9.0.20 doesn't even make it through the plugin scan, so crashes on start up. There isn't one particular plugin that it crashes with, it just enters that phase of the start up, tries to scan and then crash.

Rolled back 9.0.10 using Time machine and everything is working fine including plugin alliance stuff, powercore stuff via 32bit lives.

Re: 9.0.20 experience so far?

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 10:39 pm
by PMF
Lasso wrote:
Weasel wrote:There is something wrong with 9.0.20.

Projects created prior to 9.0.20 were playing back with an unusual amount of CPU spikes. I raised the latency to a higher number and that settled it down...but not completely.
My experience too - at least for one of my projects - only seemed to happen on the first playback on .20 though but no sure. No more spikes at least but can't judge the total CPU consumption without rolling back, which I'm not ready to do yet.
Been having this issue too since C7. I think it has nothing to do with C9.0.20
After loading a project the first time, playback will cause CPU Spikes, 2nd time playback: no Spikes.
If I wait like 1-2 Minutes after loading the project, everything Plays back fine.

Re: 9.0.20 experience so far?

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 11:47 pm
by jessenemitz
9.0.20 for me (highly optimized w7 64bit) is like a dream. it may even be as fast as 6.5 now. I can finally work... something I noticed however may help others. When you first start cubase, bring up the media bay. WAIT till it is completely synced with itself.... THEN load up your session. YMMV

Re: 9.0.20 experience so far?

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 2:33 pm
by SafeandSound
Early experiences suggest 9.0.2 is going to work very well. Only a menu bar hang issue after clicking "X" to close the application on 1 system of 2 where 9.0.2 is installed. (oddly not exhibited when using File/Quit).

Overall things feel sturdy. Once (after loading 50x soft synths) I have seen the project name vanish from the upper arrange window bar, leaving a blank arrange window bar.

I am fairly confident 9.0.2 is going to work nicely other that these slight issues that have not caused any crashes.

Re: 9.0.20 experience so far?

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 8:01 pm
by RichardTownsend
I have slightly worse cpu usage and occasional crashes I never had before. Also a strange problem in the key editor where notes stay coloured black after the playback cursor has passed through them. I'm almost sure I didn't get that in 9.0.10. Is anybody else experiencing that?

Re: 9.0.20 experience so far?

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 8:02 am
by hjwinge
I use Elements on my office imac (late2009), with sierra, and although cubase 9 and sierra is supported, I would not recommend this combo. I get bad slowdowns, and for the first time I have to restart the mac frequently during sessions and more. I have used Elements 7, 8, and 9 and perfomancewise on this mac, I think 8 should be the final version supported on this mac.

Re: 9.0.20 experience so far?

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 1:41 am
by audioguy
I introduced Reason 9 into the equation and things seem to have stabilized considerably.

A great many less audio breakups when moving MIDI notes, which is most welcome but seems counter intuitive when I am using VEPro 6, Cubase 9 and Reason 9 all together!