9.0.20 experience so far?

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Re: 9.0.20 experience so far?

Post by ramseysounds » Wed May 03, 2017 11:45 pm

orchetect wrote:For everyone jumping to Reaper, it's been a while since I used it but I found it was always a gong show. Buggy and unstable, and lacking some necessary pro features in the film/TV scoring arena. Maybe people are having more success with it now. :?
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Re: 9.0.20 experience so far?

Post by audioguy » Wed May 03, 2017 11:55 pm

Using VEPro, the setup is as follows:

1. Create instances of VST Instruments, assign VST Instrument outputs in VEPro
2. Load VEPro (instance(s)) on the VST Rack in Cubase
3. Assign VEPro Outputs in Cubase
4. Use effects or processing in either application

Workflow:

1. Load VEPro and allow VST Instrument instances to populate sample data
2. Load Cubase projects containing MIDI and audio files

VEPro loads and unloads much more quickly than any DAW ever will and does this without any of your DAW(s) having to be active so any audio driver issues can be dealt with independently of your loaded Instruments and effects, which means your instruments are there ready for any project or DAW you wish to use.

Since there are few if any VST instances loaded in the DAW, other than VEP itself, project load and unload is quick and less prone to crashing. If you are using only MIDI it is seconds.

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Re: 9.0.20 experience so far?

Post by Resonant Serpent » Thu May 04, 2017 3:44 am

Why would anyone use 32 bit plugs in a 64 bit DAW? It doesn't make sense.
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Post by theRoyal1 » Thu May 04, 2017 5:51 am

Resonant Serpent wrote:Why would anyone use 32 bit plugs in a 64 bit DAW? It doesn't make sense.
Some software companies have yet to create a 64bit version believe it or not...also some are legacy plug ins that' we've grown to love... the day will come tho :)
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Re: 9.0.20 experience so far?

Post by Steve Helstrip » Thu May 04, 2017 1:25 pm

After 1 week solid use now, I've had 3 crashes and starting to get occasional performance spikes, which I've never had before on my system. So whatever they fixed has introduced some instability for me.
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Re: 9.0.20 experience so far?

Post by ramseysounds » Thu May 04, 2017 1:28 pm

Resonant Serpent wrote:Why would anyone use 32 bit plugs in a 64 bit DAW? It doesn't make sense.
Because if you bought it some time ago, is a favourite and only available in 32 bit, what other option is there?
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Post by Lasso » Thu May 04, 2017 8:34 pm

Steve Helstrip wrote:After 1 week solid use now, I've had 3 crashes and starting to get occasional performance spikes, which I've never had before on my system. So whatever they fixed has introduced some instability for me.
I also had a crash today - dragging channel settings from a mixer channel to another mixer channel that I havn't seen in a while.

Also a project crashing on loading channels - also long time ago but back perhaps.

10 was very stable for me but ohhhh the GUI drag
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Post by audioguy » Thu May 04, 2017 9:38 pm

Steve Helstrip wrote:After 1 week solid use now, I've had 3 crashes and starting to get occasional performance spikes, which I've never had before on my system. So whatever they fixed has introduced some instability for me.
I see you are using VEPro, I have no problems with version 6.

I had a quick trial of v5 but immediately upgraded "just to see" if it was better, reason being for the fact of draggable VSTi's but as it turns out, it is more stable and in fact more workable as well.

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Post by Lasso » Fri May 05, 2017 9:03 am

Now I'm suddenly also suffering from massive perfomance spikes in a session I had no trouble with prior til .20 :roll:

Then after about a minute of nothing that helps - raising buffers, disabling / reenabling synths, suddenly it comes to rest af around 50 % after maxing out
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Post by plectrumboy » Fri May 05, 2017 9:46 am

First, early, experience: loaded fine and seems to be fine on my MacBook Pro. However, my current desktop machine, which has run all Cubase versions since 8.0, I can't get 9.0.20 to even load. I'm going to have a play around today to see if I can avoid rolling back.

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Post by silhouette » Fri May 05, 2017 1:21 pm

Steve Helstrip wrote:After 1 week solid use now, I've had 3 crashes and starting to get occasional performance spikes, which I've never had before on my system. So whatever they fixed has introduced some instability for me.
Ditto and back on 9.0.10 after the worst crash I have ever had.
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Re: 9.0.20 experience so far?

Post by plectrumboy » Fri May 05, 2017 1:34 pm

plectrumboy wrote:First, early, experience: loaded fine and seems to be fine on my MacBook Pro. However, my current desktop machine, which has run all Cubase versions since 8.0, I can't get 9.0.20 to even load. I'm going to have a play around today to see if I can avoid rolling back.

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When `I said I couldn't get it to load, I meant I couldn't get it to open, it kept stopped working as it started to load VST 2.0 plugins.

I opened Cubase 8.5.30 again, and that worked fine. Closed it, tried to open 9.0.20 again - and bizarrely, it opened. And has run a couple of 8.5.30 projects well. I have shut down the machine and opened 9.0.20 again, and again it now works. I trier to open it about 25 times unsuccessfully yesterday. Odd.

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Re: 9.0.20 experience so far?

Post by mozart » Fri May 05, 2017 2:34 pm

Mixed bag for me. Some random things - sometimes it won't switch out of "write mode" when using automation until a reboot. Export audio progress bar freezes when doing offline bounces. A few stutters at very low asio usage....
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Error in bounced file where part of the outro was repeated
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Post by Lasso » Fri May 05, 2017 7:02 pm

Some tracks are not playing - reopening the song and they will play again. This bug I have seen before and could be plugin related - just mentioning
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Post by Lasso » Fri May 05, 2017 7:03 pm

mozart wrote:Mixed bag for me. Some random things - sometimes it won't switch out of "write mode" when using automation until a reboot. Export audio progress bar freezes when doing offline bounces. A few stutters at very low asio usage....
I had trouble with offline bounce as well. Never happened before.
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Post by audioguy » Fri May 05, 2017 9:34 pm

mozart wrote:Mixed bag for me. Some random things - sometimes it won't switch out of "write mode" when using automation until a reboot. Export audio progress bar freezes when doing offline bounces. A few stutters at very low asio usage....
9.0.10 was mixed for me, this update seems to have resolved all the random issues I was facing.

I attribute this to optimisations for newer CPU instructions.

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Post by WillBthr » Mon May 08, 2017 6:25 pm

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Post by McBass » Mon May 08, 2017 7:05 pm

Tried the update and crashes and freezes 3 times day one a couple of times day two after less than an hour of use. Back to 9.0.10 for now as I have no time to trouble shoot. Will wait and see how it plays out. Seriously tired of broken Cubase versions.
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Post by ulesto » Mon May 08, 2017 7:35 pm

Working well on Mavericks, apart from minor bugs like mute not working properly on a channel with automation (not disengaging after manual toggle) and random channel notes invisible until clicked on (long standing issue). Overall performance seems better.

Most importantly, long requested mixer undo was well worth the cost of upgrade! No added problems with 9.0.2 update. On Mavericks, no visual lag. May be best Cubase yet (on unsupported system!)

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Post by aumordia » Tue May 09, 2017 6:54 am

No issues over here, if anything it's snappier than previous installments. Win 10 x64, and I don't have a lot of plugins, and they're all 64bit -- I have a sneaking suspicion rogue plugins are at the bottom of much of the pain people are experiencing, sad to say.

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Post by Quietly » Tue May 09, 2017 7:52 pm

aumordia wrote:No issues over here, if anything it's snappier than previous installments. Win 10 x64, and I don't have a lot of plugins, and they're all 64bit -- I have a sneaking suspicion rogue plugins are at the bottom of much of the pain people are experiencing, sad to say.

Same for me, installed on release; had no problems and loads Komplete Kontrol much quicker.
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Post by Model-E » Tue May 09, 2017 10:33 pm

Several freezes!
Audio tracks which are running out of time are almost gone, but crashes or freezes, especially when opening new plugins or switching presets...

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Post by augusteighty » Wed May 10, 2017 8:31 am

Have 2 machines - one is a testing machine for updates so the main system can stay predictably stable on 8.5.

After installing 9.0.2 on the testing machine it was a buggy mess - crashes all over the place - and I mean hard crashes, where prefs, window layouts, etc. all got corrupted. The usual Cubase "when it crashes the whole software inexplicably gets trashed" kind of crash.

Reinstalled Windows 10, only installed 9.0.2...instead of having 8.5 on it as well. It is now smooth and bug free.

I would recommend with Cubase 9 to do a totally OS clean install. Definitely a PITA, but seriously it got rid of every single problem I was having. Except another post I made about having problems 2 key commands (read / write), otherwise tip top shape.

NOTE: Still would love to know why, when Cubase does crash, it sometimes takes every user setting down with it: preferences, windows layouts, plugin layouts, etc. This software is absolutely terrible at retaining user settings. Can't count the number of times I've had to trash preferences, recopy windows / plugin / mediabay databases, re setup the transport part / track settings / mixer toolbar, etc. Even when you save presets they occasionally get deleted after a big crash. Mind boggling. There's seriously something amiss in the core workings of the software...I have never used a software that crashes as hard as Cubase does, and does so much damage to user settings. Perhaps if the engineers took a serious look at the disaster zone that is the XML file locations...spread all over the C drive willy nilly...it might help us backup and restore these ridiculous crashes. /endrant

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