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Re: Cubase 10 rumores, expectations, hopes, etc.?

Post by In_Stereo » Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:26 am

uarte wrote:
Wed Aug 15, 2018 2:20 pm
I don't have any rumors, but I do have expectations and hopes:

4) I *hope* they spend more time on the new video engine to bring it back at least to feature parity with the old video engine.

5) I *hope* they give us some major workflow feature for multi-cue film composers and sound designers like the "chunks" feature of Digital Performer or the "subprojects" feature of Reaper. Both of which would be super powerful for many other users too. I'm just dreaming though.

6) I *hope* they finally get around to adding true ripple editing. It's been requested for a long, long time. But I doubt we'll get it. Judging by the responses I have received over the years, I don't think Steinberg really "gets" what true ripple editing is all about. But still, I can *hope*, right?

7) I *hope* they spend a lot more time refining and perfecting (and testing) Direct Offline Processing, but I *expect* they won't do that since it seems the nicer version of DOP is reserved for Nuendo, so whatever improvements we get in DOP will likely be derived from Nuendo... so we might have to wait until Cubase 10.5. Or perhaps they might give Cubase the same version of DOP that Nuendo has?

8) I *expect* they will spend time optimizing the audio engine for high-core-count computers. General optimizations are always welcome too.
These are all prime for me, and perfectly said. Man, Ripple Editing would be such a gigantic win for Cubase. Let's hope they "get" what it is (it's so simple a concept -- I have hard time understanding why some don't get it).
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Post by babaorum » Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:25 pm

I wish :
- improvement of latency management (I have better latency in Pro Tools than in Cubase)
- preset for instruments Rack with the multi audio outpouts linked to it
- maybe a better color mapping for the console instead of just a little part.
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Post by wanderer » Fri Aug 17, 2018 2:44 pm

Some of the rumours I have heard for Cubase 10 Pro sound amazing. Here they are:
1. An AI plug-in which monitors the program for bugs as they occur on the user's system. The bugs are fixed before a crash happens and the user's OS is tweaked and optimised.
2. With the aid of a new and inexpensive piece of Steinberg hardware there will be an interface that allows Cubase to know what you are thinking, make suggestions and help you through difficult periods of composition [and your life].
3. Some users who have important clients and wish to get their projects finished yesterday will receive preferential VIP treatment. They will always receive financial compensation for any delays. They just have to press a special button on the Hub - only they are allowed to press it.
4. Cubase will now run on any piece of hardware even if it has no computing power whatsoever.
5. Those users who wish to use Cubase on several computers that are 1000s of km apart will only require the one dongle. The program will be able to run simultaneously on all of the computers without any latency by using quantum entanglement.
6. Customer service is to be expanded. Every user will have their own Steinberg employee allocated to them who will be able to call round at their house at a moment's notice.
7. Sorry, I just woke up...[sound of delay+reverb added].
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Post by uarte » Fri Aug 17, 2018 2:49 pm

wanderer wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 2:44 pm
Some of the rumours I have heard for Cubase 10 Pro sound amazing. Here they are:
1. An AI plug-in which monitors the program for bugs as they occur on the user's system. The bugs are fixed before a crash happens and the user's OS is tweaked and optimised.
2. With the aid of a new and inexpensive piece of Steinberg hardware there will be an interface that allows Cubase to know what you are thinking, make suggestions and help you through difficult periods of composition [and your life].
3. Some users who have important clients and wish to get their projects finished yesterday will receive preferential VIP treatment. They will always receive financial compensation for any delays. They just have to press a special button on the Hub - only they are allowed to press it.
4. Cubase will now run on any piece of hardware even if it has no computing power whatsoever.
5. Those users who wish to use Cubase on several computers that are 1000s of km apart will only require the one dongle. The program will be able to run simultaneously on all of the computers without any latency by using quantum entanglement.
6. Customer service is to be expanded. Every user will have their own Steinberg employee allocated to them who will be able to call round at their house at a moment's notice.
7. Sorry, I just woke up...[sound of delay+reverb added].
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Post by Manike » Fri Aug 17, 2018 2:55 pm

I'd like some sort of sub track - Audio warp is such a great feature, but we should able to warp multiple tracks together without the need for workarounds. It puts me off recording with multiple microphones. If we record with multiple microphones, safe in the knowledge we could audio warp them together that would be ace. Some sort of sub track, where they could be treated as one track on the mixer would work really well.
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Post by beerbong » Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:18 pm

Some of my hopes actually aren't features but Steinberg streamlining.

- get rid of the paid .5 versions so that there is only focus on ONE version for updates and bug fixes.
- get rid of either Cubase Artist or Cubase Elements and streamline the programs (considering there is also the Nuendo lineup)

Feature hopes
- access and utilize hit-point information via Arranger for various tools (eg. scissors + locators) (ie quickly chop drum parts to hit points from Arranger)
- improve mixer GUI
- variety of templates included for included sounds
- better dialog menus such as create a new track(s) with more properties (eg Logic)
- change project audio folder location manually
- Arranger track improvements such as record audio in Arranger mode
- new arpeggiator + pattern sequencer
- Score tablature display improvements (it currently displays inappropriate fingerings)
- multi-channel audio handling improvements (eg use 4 or 5 channel audio format for recording multi-source), so that editing audio is easier

Feature expectations
- mono/stereo stereo/mono conversion no rendering required (audio clips maintain information such as splits+fades, etc)
- VST 2.4 works as expected
- new VST rack (re-arrange racks, better GUI + scaling)
- import dual mono as stereo
- new and improved audio export dialog to better handle the individual tasks of 1) track mixdown 2) export channels
- export audio channels feature to keep audio properties 'as is', such as bitrate + stereo/mono
- import audio dialog options such as bitrate + stereo/mono (eg. down conversion of import audio)
- export slices feature (this works currently but there is no actual 'feature' to support this
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Re: Cubase 10 rumores, expectations, hopes, etc.?

Post by In_Stereo » Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:37 pm

wanderer wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 2:44 pm
Some of the rumours I have heard for Cubase 10 Pro sound amazing. Here they are:
1. An AI plug-in which monitors the program for bugs as they occur on the user's system. The bugs are fixed before a crash happens and the user's OS is tweaked and optimised.
2. With the aid of a new and inexpensive piece of Steinberg hardware there will be an interface that allows Cubase to know what you are thinking, make suggestions and help you through difficult periods of composition [and your life].
3. Some users who have important clients and wish to get their projects finished yesterday will receive preferential VIP treatment. They will always receive financial compensation for any delays. They just have to press a special button on the Hub - only they are allowed to press it.
4. Cubase will now run on any piece of hardware even if it has no computing power whatsoever.
5. Those users who wish to use Cubase on several computers that are 1000s of km apart will only require the one dongle. The program will be able to run simultaneously on all of the computers without any latency by using quantum entanglement.
6. Customer service is to be expanded. Every user will have their own Steinberg employee allocated to them who will be able to call round at their house at a moment's notice.
7. Sorry, I just woke up...[sound of delay+reverb added].
None of this sounds good, I would already want an update. :lol:
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Post by In_Stereo » Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:46 pm

A huge one would be Instrument Tracks being truly multitimbral with audio and MIDI. No, I'm not talking about the Instrument Rack, I'm talking about Instrument Tracks. Let me explain. Instead of having to assign a separate MIDI track to every audio output after the Main output, we should have every output be like the Main output is now: With a MIDI track embedded into it. You can still freely assign extra MIDI if you want, but having every output embedded with a selectable/changeable MIDI channel is light years ahead of what we have now, which is only the Main/1st Output from the VSTi doing what I'm talking about. Logic is great example (and Studio One and almost all others) of how this should work. Instrument Tracks are definitely unfinished in Cubase, and this would finish and make them far more flexible and useful since we wouldn't have to have a separate MIDI and audio track for every output other then the main one like it is now.

I mentioned this in Feature Requests a while ago, but this has been a request for many years here.
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Post by theRoyal1 » Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:40 pm

I wish they'd create "Levels" for editing automation....or any track
eg: If your automation channel is selected, the ONLY thing you can edit is within that track.

Kinda like layers where every track down eliminates you accidentally hitting anything from the other tracks so you can't select anything else.

Of course this should be added to preferences so it's also something you can toggle....
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Post by noiseboyuk » Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:57 am

In_Stereo wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:46 pm
A huge one would be Instrument Tracks being truly multitimbral with audio and MIDI. No, I'm not talking about the Instrument Rack, I'm talking about Instrument Tracks. Let me explain. Instead of having to assign a separate MIDI track to every audio output after the Main output, we should have every output be like the Main output is now: With a MIDI track embedded into it. You can still freely assign extra MIDI if you want, but having every output embedded with a selectable/changeable MIDI channel is light years ahead of what we have now, which is only the Main/1st Output from the VSTi doing what I'm talking about. Logic is great example (and Studio One and almost all others) of how this should work. Instrument Tracks are definitely unfinished in Cubase, and this would finish and make them far more flexible and useful since we wouldn't have to have a separate MIDI and audio track for every output other then the main one like it is now.

I mentioned this in Feature Requests a while ago, but this has been a request for many years here.
Nice idea, would simplify things a lot. I guess one consideration would be an easy way to keep the legacy way of working a) for compatibility and b) sometimes to work just with one or just a few audio outputs with many midi inputs. So you'd need a checkbox or something either in preferences or in the New Track pop up to combine midi and audio for all additional tracks.
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Post by James K » Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:30 pm

In_Stereo wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:46 pm
A huge one would be Instrument Tracks being truly multitimbral with audio and MIDI. No, I'm not talking about the Instrument Rack, I'm talking about Instrument Tracks. Let me explain. Instead of having to assign a separate MIDI track to every audio output after the Main output, we should have every output be like the Main output is now: With a MIDI track embedded into it. You can still freely assign extra MIDI if you want, but having every output embedded with a selectable/changeable MIDI channel is light years ahead of what we have now, which is only the Main/1st Output from the VSTi doing what I'm talking about. Logic is great example (and Studio One and almost all others) of how this should work. Instrument Tracks are definitely unfinished in Cubase, and this would finish and make them far more flexible and useful since we wouldn't have to have a separate MIDI and audio track for every output other then the main one like it is now.

I mentioned this in Feature Requests a while ago, but this has been a request for many years here.
YES! I have also suggested this in the feature requests a couple times over the years. Cubase will be the last kid to the party on this one but better late than never! :)
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Post by MagneticM » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:30 pm

I'm fairly new user, but coming from 8 years of using Reaper, which has a lot of features that are requested here for Cubase, but is absolutely terrible at workflow, and bugs are way worse then they seam to be in Cubase, and for all those who think Cubase UI has problems, they should go try Reaper for a month, build their own toolbar picking from hundreds if not thousandths of half working script, and then try and complete something more complex than pop song in it, and I bet those people won't even last a month and will run back to Cubase crying ;D

Thought, what i'd like to see in C10, that would be slight cleaner interface thought too. I really like Cubase 7 interface - very tidy and clean, and faster to work with then 9's. I don't really care much for customization, and I believe UX specialists are there to do the job for me.

I'd also like to be able to change midi in's for all selected tracks all together ( thought maybe it isn't possible only in EL which I use )

Also, some way of accessing an instrument ui when many tracks are selected at the same time.

Also, stretching midi notes and items, which is something I do miss from Reaper ( you hold Alt key and can grab one of the item or selected notes side and stretch all off them so that they still maintain their relative position).

Also, more insert notes options, like insert every second grid etc, just more of automated tools with options in general.

But as I said, some of those might already be available in artist or pro version.

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Post by greggybud » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:54 pm

MagneticM wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:30 pm
Also, more insert notes options, like insert every second grid etc, just more of automated tools with options in general.
But as I said, some of those might already be available in artist or pro version.
The Logical Editor can do that, plus a whole lot more.
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Post by cubace » Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:45 am

I guess it will as usual. A bit of everything. Some new plugins, some updated plugins, some new features and a lot of new bugs.
Im hoping for some serious rework on workflow for hardware controllers. QC2.0 and VST4 SDK where it have to be implemented not as today where it is optional and majority of vendors totally ignores it. Add to that Generic Remote 2.0, and a common command dialogue where you see keyboard and remote commands in the same dialogue and function binding window. A new colour hinting to if the function are saved with the global settings, project etc. A lot of bugfixes and cleanups.

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Post by In_Stereo » Mon Aug 20, 2018 9:48 pm

noiseboyuk wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:57 am
In_Stereo wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:46 pm
A huge one would be Instrument Tracks being truly multitimbral with audio and MIDI. No, I'm not talking about the Instrument Rack, I'm talking about Instrument Tracks. Let me explain. Instead of having to assign a separate MIDI track to every audio output after the Main output, we should have every output be like the Main output is now: With a MIDI track embedded into it. You can still freely assign extra MIDI if you want, but having every output embedded with a selectable/changeable MIDI channel is light years ahead of what we have now, which is only the Main/1st Output from the VSTi doing what I'm talking about. Logic is great example (and Studio One and almost all others) of how this should work. Instrument Tracks are definitely unfinished in Cubase, and this would finish and make them far more flexible and useful since we wouldn't have to have a separate MIDI and audio track for every output other then the main one like it is now.
Nice idea, would simplify things a lot. I guess one consideration would be an easy way to sometimes to work just with one or just a few audio outputs with many midi inputs.
I hear you, yeah. With what I'm saying (and have seen/experienced in all other DAWs I've tried/used) nothing would change with that function -- you would still be able to freely assign as many extra MIDI inputs to any VSTi channel/output, just as you can now.
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Post by GregMalick » Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:10 pm

I've only been using v9.5 for about a week (used Pro24 back in the day).

I would like the Close window "X icon" to be consistently in the same place (upper right).
Not sometimes in the lower left (like the Midi Editor).
There's a certain amount of Windows muscle memory that's hard to overcome.

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Post by lordExtra » Thu Aug 23, 2018 5:29 pm

Ableton Link support, pretty please
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Post by keltech » Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:06 pm

the only feature I would like to see is better use of the cpu, like logic
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Post by mattyanez » Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:45 am

Some ideas in my case:

-RMS meter in every channel. ;)
-Better CPU handling with high consuming plugins
-IR Convolution Reverb plugin
-Pitch correct plugin (like AutoTune EFX) :mrgreen:
-Stereo to dual mono conversion IN the session when handling ST tracks (PT has this function since a long time) :?:
-Better and faster time when you open the software (I mean, with an even more humble setup that i have now, PT 10 launch in no more of 10 seconds, Cubase up to 35 seconds!!! :(
-Since it´s more of a "musician friendly" DAW, they should update their bass, guitar and drum tools (Groove Agent, VST Bass and Amp Rack). In this matter, Logic has so many better sounding VST right out of the box, with Cubase it takesa little tweaking, wich in some cases could be a deal breaker when you are writing some ideas. With the GarageBand app for iPhone i can get a better drum sound with almost no tweaking! :shock:

This is more of a personal concern:

I HATE the fact that when i´m recording a track and i want to change the volume of another, the record setup changes to the second track, that´s a little too complicated to deal with. :oops:

Also, when you work with a lot of tracks, and you´re using the mouse wheel to navigate the editor zone, sometimes you messed up with the values of volume in certain tracks. I like the way that PT behaves in that matter, when no matter you do, the mouse wheel doesn´t affect values when you are upon the volume box in the channel area. :?:
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Post by SteelyDani » Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:49 am

mattyanez wrote:
Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:45 am
Also, when you work with a lot of tracks, and you´re using the mouse wheel to navigate the editor zone, sometimes you messed up with the values of volume in certain tracks. I like the way that PT behaves in that matter, when no matter you do, the mouse wheel doesn´t affect values when you are upon the volume box in the channel area. :?:
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Post by arkdzo » Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:17 pm

11) I *expect* they'll release a nice step sequencer and possible "pattern" workflow. I *hope* they don't chase too much after the Ableton and FL users though.
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Post by Ambientdave » Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:27 am

vinark wrote:
Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:21 am
I hope it still works under win7 64!
Amen to that! :D
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Post by planarchist » Tue Aug 28, 2018 11:46 am

Ambientdave wrote:
Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:27 am
vinark wrote:
Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:21 am
I hope it still works under win7 64!
Amen to that! :D
I used Windows 7 64 bit for years now,works just fine,why change and upset the apple cart as the saying goes
...yes, great for we users to have the flexibility but from Steinberg's point of view it's an extra OS to check everything with. FWIW, Halion 6 was originally launched as supported for Windows 10 only.
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