Side by side docking of Project & Lower Zone (now Side Zone)

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Re: Side by side docking of Project & Lower Zone (now Side Zone)

Post by djw » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:23 pm

Doricoalltheway wrote:
Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:19 pm
One more thing, in your graphic there are 2 toolbars, we need just one so that when the key editor is selected, we can select buttons(or press key commands) from the main toolbar
A merged toolbar could work in this case, it's a pretty interesting idea.
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Re: Side by side docking of Project & Lower Zone (now Side Zone)

Post by Doricoalltheway » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:24 pm

djw wrote:
Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:17 pm
You can already have the volume fader open in the Inspector (it's in one of the tabs), and you can already close the inspector ("Left Zone"). Cool if you like the request though.
Oh, sorry about that.
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Re: Side by side docking of Project & Lower Zone (now Side Zone)

Post by Doricoalltheway » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:26 pm

djw wrote:
Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:23 pm
Doricoalltheway wrote:
Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:19 pm
One more thing, in your graphic there are 2 toolbars, we need just one so that when the key editor is selected, we can select buttons(or press key commands) from the main toolbar
A merged toolbar could work in this case, it's a pretty interesting idea.
Just like when you open the Key Editor in the Seperate Window, than there's also just one toolbar.
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Re: Side by side docking of Project & Lower Zone (now Side Zone)

Post by noiseboyuk » Thu Aug 24, 2017 4:51 am

I've been thinking a little more about all this. Thanks for those mockups djw, but it's saying to me that none of these fixed single-screen solutions work very well. When working on the laptop, I still far prefer a system of overlapping windows for mix, key editor and console, where each gives you a near-full screen for whatever you are working on, and each is a single click away.

I think Steinberg have spent a lot of development time on something that is far too restrictive, and is ultimately even if enhanced as suggested here, a poorer version of what we already have.
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Re: Side by side docking of Project & Lower Zone (now Side Zone)

Post by djw » Thu Aug 24, 2017 5:17 am

I've already test driven this in Reaper. I don't know about your hardware, but on a proper sized display (an ultra wide in my case) it's absolutely functional.

This doesn't strictly have to be single screen either. My prefered setup would be the MixConsole on my lower screen and the project and Key Editor split on my top screen.

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Re: Side by side docking of Project & Lower Zone (now Side Zone)

Post by noiseboyuk » Thu Aug 24, 2017 4:35 pm

I'm using a MacBook Pro as my portable rig, and I can't see it working well on that resolution - I really need pretty much the full screen for any of the windows I'm working on. As for the main rig, that's 4x monitors - I don't think I'd find a permanent split useful on any of those either really.

I think any improvement on floating windows would have to be dynamic in some way shape or form, something that expands when in use and retracts when not.
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Re: Side by side docking of Project & Lower Zone (now Side Zone)

Post by djw » Thu Aug 24, 2017 4:56 pm

You make it sound like zone docking is a bad idea just because it doesn't suit your personal setups of either a small screen or 4 screens. Very little of us users have the latter.

None of this is mandatory, remember. The functionality is most of the way there and isn't going away, so I'd like it to be as useful as possible. It's not going to be for everyone and that's fine, since windows remain an option.

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Re: Side by side docking of Project & Lower Zone (now Side Zone)

Post by T-bag » Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:51 pm

Just seen this and its definitely a + 1.
In the meantime, inspired by this, I've made a workspace I can call up to get the score editor, or the key editor, to fit into the right hand side.
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