Smooth Scrolling

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Smooth Scrolling

Post by fbeauvaisc » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:36 pm

Smooth scrolling in the project window but mostly in the audio editors would help a lot.

I am using the mouse's wheel but It is very easy to loose track of specific audio transients when scrolling as it uses somewhat large increments. In the piano roll, the pitch of the notes kind of give you additional references but smooth scrolling would help a lot when editing audio.

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Re: Smooth Scrolling

Post by zooterman » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:01 am

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Re: Smooth Scrolling

Post by Evertone » Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:47 pm

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Re: Smooth Scrolling

Post by Delicieuxz » Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:31 pm

+1

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Re: Smooth Scrolling

Post by snook » Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:19 pm

+1

This seems to be an ongoing issue as it's been raised before in the past and yet nothing has changed.

The mouse scroll speed sucks!!

Please fix this.. i.e if you drag the right scroll bar with the mouse it moves nice and smooth like, but if you turn the mouse wheel to scroll, it jumps too far and you lose track of where you are! With all the workflow improvements that keep getting added this seems like such a simple request and would make using the program much more pleasant! The way cubase has done away with the floating windows make it feel to me far more clunky and with the jumpy scrolling just makes it unpleasant to use, the poor navigation is messing with my workflow, if things get worse I'll start looking at other DAWs.

Could this not be fixed with a simple update? If using the scroll bar can move the project smoothly then the mouse scroll wheel should be able to do the same, sort it out please!!
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Re: Smooth Scrolling

Post by loungery » Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:52 am

+1

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Re: Smooth Scrolling

Post by djw » Thu Jul 27, 2017 2:19 am

My suggestion is to scroll by holding the middle mouse button. It's very smooth.

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Post by barnie » Thu Jul 27, 2017 8:07 pm

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Re: Smooth Scrolling

Post by In_Stereo » Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:00 pm

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Re: Smooth Scrolling

Post by keyma76 » Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:25 pm

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Re: Smooth Scrolling

Post by sky19880611 » Fri Aug 25, 2017 4:21 am

+1
also windows needs horizontal scroll support, this is like a very basic function. Thanks.

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Post by digitalson » Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:00 am

You know if you left or right click on a time display it will scroll of that value
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Re: Smooth Scrolling

Post by djw » Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:01 am

It seems to be a Mac user request.

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Re: Smooth Scrolling

Post by fbeauvaisc » Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:02 pm

djw wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:01 am
It seems to be a Mac user request.
Not at all, I'm a windows user. I don't understand why smooth scrolling would be a Mac user request. I know we can hit and hold the wheel then move around the mouse to drag the screen around. I my request was not smooth dragging, it was smooth scrolling. It would make working with Cubase a lot less tiring for the eyes. For those who spend 40h+ a week on Cubase, this just might be the most beneficial feature we could get. It would affect our overall experience no matter what your workflow is.

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Re: Smooth Scrolling

Post by djw » Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:03 pm

How exactly would you want to scroll around? Is there an application that does scrolling in a way you like?

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Re: Smooth Scrolling

Post by fbeauvaisc » Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:27 pm

I'm simply talking about basic scrolling vertically or horizontally while holding the shift key but making it smooth. And no need to look far, just look at the way google's Chome, Microsoft Edge, Firefox or whatever browser you use. They smoothly slide from increments instead of roughly jumping through them like Cubase does. Just scroll up and down this actual window to see what I mean and then compare with Cubase's way of doing it. It almost feels like a strobe effect making me loose track of audio transients when I'm just a bit tired at the end of the day. It's less apparent if you only work with midi, then you have the actual pitch and colors as a reference but when editing an audio track in the Sample Editor, looking at transients, I can assure you you'll get lost every once in a while and smooth scrolling would help us a lot.
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Re: Smooth Scrolling

Post by djw » Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:33 pm

In that case I like how it's done in FL Studio. But you need a very steady refresh rate for that to look good.

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Re: Smooth Scrolling

Post by Raphie » Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:49 pm

I’m not sure what you mean with smooth scrolling? I have a logitech mouse and my wheel can be set to dented or smooth and I can change the scroll rate. I’ve got no smooth scrolling challenges? Shouldn’t you just upgrade your mouse with a wheel that’s not dented?
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Re: Smooth Scrolling

Post by fbeauvaisc » Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:21 pm

Raphie wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:49 pm
I’m not sure what you mean with smooth scrolling? I have a logitech mouse and my wheel can be set to dented or smooth and I can change the scroll rate. I’ve got no smooth scrolling challenges? Shouldn’t you just upgrade your mouse with a wheel that’s not dented?
No it's not the issue, I work with the Logitech G502 where I can even have totally free scrolling without any dents at all. Do I have to make a video for you guys? We all have that issue with Cubase, I guess it does not bother some of you because you probably work more with midi than audio and you don't warp and tweak audio in the sample editor all day.

But even in the project window for exemple, scrolling jumps in steps compared to clicking and dragging the scroll bar (that would be smooth scrolling). Can't you see that? It's even more apparent when scrolling horizontally.
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Re: Smooth Scrolling

Post by Raphie » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:08 pm

might be the case, I think a video would be helpful.
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Re: Smooth Scrolling

Post by djw » Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:41 pm

fbeauvaisc wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:21 pm
I work with the Logitech G502 where I can even have totally free scrolling without any dents at all.
That Logitech smooth scrolling is specific to Logitech. I believe the only reason you can do that in browsers is because there's an extension installed. Don't expect proprietary support like that in Cubase.

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Re: Smooth Scrolling

Post by fbeauvaisc » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:24 pm

djw wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:41 pm
fbeauvaisc wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:21 pm
I work with the Logitech G502 where I can even have totally free scrolling without any dents at all.
That Logitech smooth scrolling is specific to Logitech. I believe the only reason you can do that in browsers is because there's an extension installed. Don't expect proprietary support like that in Cubase.
Nope, it's smooth with any old mouse in the browsers. Please stop if you don't know what we're talking about. Even using the keyboard arrows it "scrolls" up an down smoothly gliding through increments instead of stepping through them. It has absolutely nothing to do with the mouse being used and is 100% software design. I think I'll have to make a video for some of you guys to finally understand the concept. It's not rocket science but I guess it's still not clear to some of you.
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Re: Smooth Scrolling

Post by djw » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:45 pm

fbeauvaisc wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:24 pm
Nope, it's smooth with any old mouse in the browsers. Please stop if you don't know what we're talking about. Even using the keyboard arrows it "scrolls" up an down smoothly gliding through increments instead of stepping through them. It has absolutely nothing to do with the mouse being used and is 100% software design. I think I'll have to make a video for some of you guys to finally understand the concept. It's not rocket science but I guess it's still not clear to some of you.
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... offk?hl=en

Hey look, it's an extension to make true smooth scrolling (unclicked scroll wheel) possible for Logitech mice like you were talking about.

Yes, I know you can interpolate any scrolling so it looks more smooth. Like I said, at the moment Cubase's framerate isn't consistent enough for that to look good. Don't know what more to say.

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Re: Smooth Scrolling

Post by fbeauvaisc » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:49 pm

djw wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:45 pm
fbeauvaisc wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:24 pm
Nope, it's smooth with any old mouse in the browsers. Please stop if you don't know what we're talking about. Even using the keyboard arrows it "scrolls" up an down smoothly gliding through increments instead of stepping through them. It has absolutely nothing to do with the mouse being used and is 100% software design. I think I'll have to make a video for some of you guys to finally understand the concept. It's not rocket science but I guess it's still not clear to some of you.
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... offk?hl=en

Hey look, it's an extension to make true smooth scrolling (unclicked scroll wheel) possible for Logitech mice like you were talking about.

Yes, I know you can interpolate any scrolling so it looks more smooth. Like I said, at the moment Cubase's framerate isn't consistent enough for that to look good. Don't know what more to say.
I know of the extension and that is beside the point. We all know at the moment, Cubase can't do it. Why else would we put it in the feature requests. The point is, it can be done and would help us a lot if it was.
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Re: Smooth Scrolling

Post by Delicieuxz » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:49 pm

So, some people don't know what smooth-scrolling is. Smooth scrolling is having the content of an application windows scroll with the mouse-wheel in a way that is gradual and consistent, rather than a series of chunky jumps between the content. There is no frame-rate requirement for it, as it is not locked to a frame-rate. Cubase itself doesn't have a frame-rate, but will display according to whatever your personal monitor supports.

And I don't know what the point showing that browser plugin is supposed to be making, because I don't have that Logitech extension installed in Chrome, and yet Chrome has smooth-scrolling. I don't have an extension in Firefox, and yet Firefox has smooth-scrolling. I don't have an extension in Opera, and yet Opera has smooth-scrolling. I don't have an extension in Edge, and yet Edge has smooth-scrolling. Even Internet Explorer has smooth-scrolling.

And +1 to adding smooth-scrolling to Cubase. It's long overdue.

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