Expression Map - Helpful Additions

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Expression Map - Helpful Additions

Post by orchetect » Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:24 am

Steinberg, please consider adding some basic useful features to setting up/maintaining Expression Maps that will go a long way to helping us save time and sanity.

In the Expression Map Setup window:
  • Please allow us to duplicate a map. A 'Duplicate' button would suffice.
  • Please let us reorder the maps in the list by drag & drop or at least sort alphabetically.
  • Please add some sort of indication whether a Map is in use in the project. This could be as simple as adding a little icon next to it, or making the name of the Map in the list bold. (Massive bonus points if you add a way to see which track(s) are using each Map in a single table.)
  • When deleting an Expression Map, PLEASE add code that checks if that Map is currently in use on a MIDI or Instrument track in the session, and ask for confirmation before deleting if that's the case. It's incredibly easy in large sessions to lose track of where Maps are being used (especially with different revisions of the same Map in use) and inadvertently delete one that is in use, and only discover the oopsie hours or days later.
  • Ability copy and paste slots in the Setup window
In the Key Editor: Bonus:
  • Independent MIDI offset (like milliseconds offset on MIDI tracks, + or -) per articulation; many sample libraries have varying note attacks/pre-laps that vary by articulation.
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Re: Expression Map - Helpful Additions

Post by -steve- » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:31 am

+a gazillion

I'll just add one teensy one,:

5. ability copy and paste slots
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Post by In_Stereo » Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:15 am

+ TWO gazillion
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Re: Expression Map - Helpful Additions

Post by raino » Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:00 pm

Yeah, a comprehensive update to Expression Maps is overdue.
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Re: Expression Map - Helpful Additions

Post by jmgotsoul » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:55 pm

+1 Kabillion

I was getting ready to add a feature request but decided to first search and I found this one. Everything in this request much needed!
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Post by JMCecil » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:19 pm

I went sideways on my prior response ... so
+1 to a complete overhaul of the editor with the suggested additional capabilities.
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Re: Expression Map - Helpful Additions

Post by austinhaynesmusic » Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:39 am

+1 on enhancing Expression Maps. For people using lots of patches like VSL, it would be great to allow easier ability to see articulations in the expression map lane of the key editor. Perhaps adding a tab for further pages of articulations or something.

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Post by jeffreycl » Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:55 pm

I'm new to Cubase and maybe I'm missing something, but how about adding the ability to change a controller by a (+-)% on a particular channel instead of having to pick a hard value. In other words, I may want to change the characteristics of a note slightly by adding the articulation instead of picking hard numbers for everything. I know it can be done manually in the controller lanes but so can all the rest of expression mapping.

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Post by Assange_isNotNeo » Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:14 pm

+1 for these demands.

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Post by Babe8 » Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:35 am

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Re: Expression Map - Helpful Additions

Post by austinhaynesmusic » Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:48 am

I like the requests in this thread. I would add if there is a way to manage articulations when the viewing starts to get full in the controller lane.

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Post by Musicmind » Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:46 am

Yes, an update would be very welcome!
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Post by GrahamInChezzy » Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:19 am

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Re: Expression Map - Helpful Additions

Post by EdBeesley » Wed Apr 04, 2018 11:55 am

-steve- wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:31 am
+a gazillion

I'll just add one teensy one,:

5. ability copy and paste slots
+a gazillion squared. That one feature would speed up my template prep by a significant factor
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Re: Expression Map - Helpful Additions

Post by Pablo1980 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:17 pm

Yes. Expression maps and midi editing tools are in desperate need of an overhaul.

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Post by jcbfoos » Wed Apr 04, 2018 9:59 pm

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Post by lokotus » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:12 am

+1

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+1

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Post by arieln » Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:41 pm

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Post by bruno-n » Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:15 pm

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Post by stan-k » Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:16 am

+1

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Post by Panther » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:09 pm

+1
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Re: Expression Map - Helpful Additions

Post by profezeus » Sun Jul 29, 2018 8:19 am

+1

Any improvement would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Expression Map - Helpful Additions

Post by J Buckingham » Wed Aug 01, 2018 4:51 pm

+1

To be Able to audition the articulations by selecting from the expression map list in the inspector.
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Re: Expression Map - Helpful Additions

Post by reztes » Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:15 pm

Yes, they need to be improved.

I would add the ability to change which expression is used by default when recording. Currently is the first one, but it would be nice that you could choose. For instance, I have Violins and some times I want to record with sustain and others with shorts. It would be as easy as allow to click in the panel in the left and select the default articulation (the green triangle).

Expression maps could be a killer feature, but they are like an eternal promise, never fullfiled.

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