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Re: HALion 6 and HALion Sonic 3

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:45 pm
by kimbo72
funkycornwall wrote:Very excited to hear about HALion 6 and Sonic 3. I particularly love the Flexphrase feature which I think is a brilliant tool and I was wondering whether there are any updates and improvements to this area in the new version. Very much looking forward to seeing the new products.
Me to mate.

Halion is the best sampler on the market.
With audio warp en now direct audio recording.
I almost can't wait to use Halion 6.

Re: HALion 6 and HALion Sonic 3

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:55 pm
by avviano
Hi Matthias!

Halion 6 looks very promising. I do have a question relating to the Macro Page Designer and the Library Creator. I was quite excited at first, but I think I got ahead of myself there a bit:

After you create a UI with the Macro Page Designer for, lets say a sampled instrument, you then use the Library Creator to export it in some way or form. Its not quite clear to me if the Library Creator creates a library item / Instrument only for use in Halion Sonic 3 / Halion 6 (closed system) or actually creates a stand-alone VST2/3 Instrument for use in other applications that support VSTs.

Can you create standalone VSTs with Halion 6?

Cheers.

Re: HALion 6 and HALion Sonic 3

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:36 pm
by Matthias Quellmann
avviano wrote:

Can you create standalone VSTs with Halion 6?

Cheers.
The Library Creator exports a monolithic VST Sound file that contains samples, presets, scripts and the macro page.
These VST Sound archives can then be loaded in (or better registered to) any other HALion 6 system. If you build your macro pages with the right dimensions, you will be also be able to create instrument libraries that can be loaded in HALion Sonic 3 and HALion Sonic SE 3. HALion Sonic SE 3 will be available for download free of charge on the Steinberg website. To answer you questions: You will be able create a HALion library that can be used in HALion 6, HALion Sonic 3 and HALion Sonic SE 3, but since HALion Sonic SE 3 is free, it can be loaded as a plug-in in any VST, AU and AAX host, and there will be a standalone version, it is not really a closed system.

Re: HALion 6 and HALion Sonic 3

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 10:41 pm
by henrikmusic
I own Halion 5.

What about the Halion 6 price ?.

Is it 99 euro include tax ?.

Eu tax ??, i live in Denmark, i hope
when Halion comes out, the Halion 6
page will show exactly price include tax,
EU tax, etc!..

Re: HALion 6 and HALion Sonic 3

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:12 pm
by SqueekSqueek
Matthias Quellmann wrote:
avviano wrote:

Can you create standalone VSTs with Halion 6?

Cheers.
The Library Creator exports a monolithic VST Sound file that contains samples, presets, scripts and the macro page.
These VST Sound archives can then be loaded in (or better registered to) any other HALion 6 system. If you build your macro pages with the right dimensions, you will be also be able to create instrument libraries that can be loaded in HALion Sonic 3 and HALion Sonic SE 3. HALion Sonic SE 3 will be available for download free of charge on the Steinberg website. To answer you questions: You will be able create a HALion library that can be used in HALion 6, HALion Sonic 3 and HALion Sonic SE 3, but since HALion Sonic SE 3 is free, it can be loaded as a plug-in in any VST, AU and AAX host, and there will be a standalone version, it is not really a closed system.
...which is great, because it will change the industry forever.

In the past there was no solution to sell or give away for free sample libraries without relatively high software requirements on the side of the receiver (DAW + the right sampler software), this will make using Halion for ones content a no-brainer, because everyone can simply get Halion SE 3 and then use the library at hand.

Makes me even more perplexed over NIs decision not to have an "export to VST"-button in Reaktor (which is the most important reason I don't use it as much as I would like - it feels somewhat pointless not to be able to hand out what I have made to everyone and his brother).

Re: HALion 6 and HALion Sonic 3

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:56 am
by kimbo72
henrikmusic wrote:I own Halion 5.

What about the Halion 6 price ?.

Is it 99 euro include tax ?.

Eu tax ??, i live in Denmark, i hope
when Halion comes out, the Halion 6
page will show exactly price include tax,
EU tax, etc!..
Its the same prize as a upgrade from 4 to 5.
So 99 euro's

Re: HALion 6 and HALion Sonic 3

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:47 am
by henrikmusic
It's not that simple.

EU commision has desided to put VAT
on all electronic download, that could
be between, i don't know, maybe
20-30%?!.

I don't know if these VAT rules only apply
if you buy digital download product outside EU country!.


Matthias Quellmann could properly answer
these questions much better, i hope.

Re: HALion 6 and HALion Sonic 3

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:12 pm
by John Purser
Hope this helps

Re: HALion 6 and HALion Sonic 3

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:24 pm
by henrikmusic
Thank you Kimbo72
Thank you John.

£80, that's cheap!.

I paid a fortune for Halion 4, (which i upgradet
for free to Halion 5 with Grace period!).

Re: HALion 6 and HALion Sonic 3

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:35 pm
by henrikmusic
I don't come here often, but i see
on other user's post in this forum has remarks
like "has thanked 51 times".
How do i do that?.

Allso after Steinberg did a maintenance of
the forum, my password for my old login is
gone.
I joined the Steinberg forums in 2010!
I don't know if you don't "thank you" other forum
user will cause my user profile to show
"New member" ?.
Anyway, it really dosent matter!.

Re: HALion 6 and HALion Sonic 3

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:55 pm
by fenderchris
See the little thumbs-up sign on other peoples' posts? Click on that to thank them.

Unfortunately, you can not thank yourself :D

Re: HALion 6 and HALion Sonic 3

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:13 pm
by mpayne0
There is so much going on with H6, I'm afraid I would not have time to make a song anymore!

Re: HALion 6 and HALion Sonic 3

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:25 pm
by henrikmusic
Found it!

Thanks.

Re: HALion 6 and HALion Sonic 3

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:52 pm
by kimbo72
fenderchris wrote:
Unfortunately, you can not thank yourself :D
Not? Ok then i gonna kiss my self. :D

Re: HALion 6 and HALion Sonic 3

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:14 am
by avviano
What about the Halion 6 price ?.
Is it 99 euro include tax ?.

Found a PDF with a Halion 6 review with pricing for Halion 6, Halion Sonic 3, Absolute 3 full as well as all update variants. I have included the link. I dont know if this is anything official or just speculation, but it looks like it could reflect actual price policies.

Here is the link: https://www.audioedit.it/wp-content/upl ... e-3-EN.pdf

According to this review, prices are as follows (with more pricings in the PDF):

Halio 6 Full € 349
Update from Halion 5 > € 99.99
Update from Halion 4 > € 199

Halion Sonic 3 SE (according to Matthias: FREE).
Halion Sonic 3 Full € 249
Update from HS2 > € 99.99
Update from HS1 > € 199

Abolute 3 Full € 499
Update from A2 > € 99.99
Update from A1 > € 299

I am just quoting the document here, so dont hold me accountable. As long as Steinberg does not officially post prices on their website, any pricing infromation is speculative in nature.

@Matthias: Thank you for your answer. Good news that Steinberg is offering a free version of Halion Sonic, so that anyone can play the instruments. For future releases of Cubase, maybe Steinberg can migrate the Macro Interface Designer part of Halion 6 and make it available for the External MIDI VST Designer in Cubase.

Cheers...

Re: HALion 6 and HALion Sonic 3

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:15 pm
by SqueekSqueek
avviano wrote: @Matthias: Thank you for your answer. Good news that Steinberg is offering a free version of Halion Sonic, so that anyone can play the instruments. For future releases of Cubase, maybe Steinberg can migrate the Macro Interface Designer part of Halion 6 and make it available for the External MIDI VST Designer in Cubase.
+1

...and scripting as well? :-D

Re: HALion 6 and HALion Sonic 3

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:55 am
by Matthias Quellmann
avviano wrote:What about the Halion 6 price ?.
Is it 99 euro include tax ?.

Found a PDF with a Halion 6 review with pricing for Halion 6, Halion Sonic 3, Absolute 3 full as well as all update variants. I have included the link. I dont know if this is anything official or just speculation, but it looks like it could reflect actual price policies.

Here is the link: https://www.audioedit.it/wp-content/upl ... e-3-EN.pdf

According to this review, prices are as follows (with more pricings in the PDF):

Halio 6 Full € 349
Update from Halion 5 > € 99.99
Update from Halion 4 > € 199

Halion Sonic 3 SE (according to Matthias: FREE).
Halion Sonic 3 Full € 249
Update from HS2 > € 99.99
Update from HS1 > € 199

Abolute 3 Full € 499
Update from A2 > € 99.99
Update from A1 > € 299

I am just quoting the document here, so dont hold me accountable. As long as Steinberg does not officially post prices on their website, any pricing infromation is speculative in nature.

@Matthias: Thank you for your answer. Good news that Steinberg is offering a free version of Halion Sonic, so that anyone can play the instruments. For future releases of Cubase, maybe Steinberg can migrate the Macro Interface Designer part of Halion 6 and make it available for the External MIDI VST Designer in Cubase.

Cheers...
Yes, that is our official Review Guide that we sent out with the press release. It's not a document for the customer communication though...

You can find all the official prices in the Pre-Sales area of this forum.

Re: HALion 6 and HALion Sonic 3

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:25 pm
by crazyadamos
Hi!
Is Halion 6 will work without any problems on Windows 7 ?

Re: HALion 6 and HALion Sonic 3

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:56 am
by Matthias Quellmann
crazyadamos wrote:Hi!
Is Halion 6 will work without any problems on Windows 7 ?
Hi,

HALion has only been tested on Windows 10 and Windows 8 64-bit systems. Windows 7 is not officially supported in this release.

Re: HALion 6 and HALion Sonic 3

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 1:45 pm
by fenderchris
Matthias Quellmann wrote:
crazyadamos wrote:
Windows 7 is not officially supported in this release.

That is bad news. I can not buy it now.

When do you expect W7 to be officially supported?

Does H6 work at all with W7 at the moment?

Re: HALion 6 and HALion Sonic 3

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 1:59 pm
by Matthias Quellmann
fenderchris wrote:
Matthias Quellmann wrote:
crazyadamos wrote:
Windows 7 is not officially supported in this release.

That is bad news. I can not buy it now.

When do you expect W7 to be officially supported?

Does H6 work at all with W7 at the moment?
Unfortunately W7 will never be supported by HALion 6.

Re: HALion 6 and HALion Sonic 3

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:08 pm
by ggc
if it works on win10, it should work on win 7 -
it is not supported because it probably was not officially tested on w7...

win7 is still better than win10... :P

Re: HALion 6 and HALion Sonic 3

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:20 pm
by fenderchris
Matthias Quellmann wrote:
Unfortunately W7 will never be supported by HALion 6.
You don't want my money?

I'm certainly not going to change operating system (with all of the potential driver issues that might occur) just for one VST !

It is not as if I'm using XP or something - Windows-7 is probably still the most widely used OS on PC's in the audio market.

Re: HALion 6 and HALion Sonic 3

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:28 pm
by kimbo72
ggc wrote:
win7 is still better than win10... :P
Based on what?

Re: HALion 6 and HALion Sonic 3

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 7:36 pm
by ggc
based on an ancient revelation which was hidden in a holo-crystal found on the moon... or so Ive heard...