Unify the Event Display (preferences) in Nuendo and Cubase

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Unify the Event Display (preferences) in Nuendo and Cubase

Post by JBF » Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:18 pm

I recently saw three posts for "selected event indication".
viewtopic.php?f=276&t=138522
viewtopic.php?f=276&t=139534
viewtopic.php?f=275&t=138479
Although Nuendo and Cubase are similar at the first glance, there are fundamental differences in the
way how events are displayed
Selected Events - color invertion in Cubase (which I don't like at all) vs. red outline in Nuendo
Dragging Events - dragged event turns semi-transparent, old position still visibile in Nuendo (not in Nuendo 8.3 anymore)- luckily not availible in Cubase at all (that was the only reason why I moved to Cubase)
In my opinion the cuts in events are barely visible in Nuendo 8. In Nuendo 4 you had a blue outline for the cut, which is gone.
Now you have to mess around with colors a lot in order to make it somehow acceptable. Not the case in Cubase at all.
Strangly enough the preferences for event display in Cubase are very extensive while really limited in Nuendo, which is sold for the triple
price of Cubase. I would expect exactly the opposite.
Just compare here
https://steinberg.help/cubase_pro_artis ... lay_r.html
https://steinberg.help/nuendo/v8/en/cub ... lay_r.html
These differences drive people, who switch from Nuendo to Cubase and vice versa really crazy. At least from what I see in cubase AND nuendo forum.
So why not do both - unify the event display options, but in the way that every display option from both programs is availible and can be changed.
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Re: Unify the Event Display (preferences) in Nuendo and Cubase

Post by In_Stereo » Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:02 pm

+1 Agreed, and very well put. This solves the problem for all, and it's maddening not having some of the options that lower-priced Cubase has. In software this expensive, the display options should be the most advanced.
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Re: Unify the Event Display (preferences) in Nuendo and Cubase

Post by mac88104 » Tue Jun 12, 2018 1:44 am

+1
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Re: Unify the Event Display (preferences) in Nuendo and Cubase

Post by arve.furset » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:06 pm

+1
Upgraded to Nuendo with the 40% offer, only to find that matching transients of overlapping events by opaque view is not possible anymore!
I though Nuendo would have all functionality from Cubase and then some…..seem the opposite is the case in this matter :(
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Re: Unify the Event Display (preferences) in Nuendo and Cubase

Post by arve.furset » Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:59 am

On another note - if my track is red-ish colored, I can no longer see when a part is selected...Cubase is much better here as well :(

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Re: Unify the Event Display (preferences) in Nuendo and Cubase

Post by JBF » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:21 pm

arve.furset wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:06 pm
+1
Upgraded to Nuendo with the 40% offer, only to find that matching transients of overlapping events by opaque view not possible anymore!
I though Nuendo would have all functionality from Cubsase and then some…..seem the opposite is the case in this matter :(
It's a shame that you can not turn it off. It can be usefull for post-production, but completely counter-productive when editing music. Another minus point for Nuendo!!!!
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Re: Unify the Event Display (preferences) in Nuendo and Cubase

Post by In_Stereo » Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:44 pm

JBF wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:21 pm


It's a shame that you can not turn it off. It can be usefull for post-production, but completely counter-productive when editing music. Another minus point for Nuendo!!!!
It really has nothing to do with post-production, but is simply personal preference. Pro Tools is the standard for post and you can always see what you've selected extremely clearly and also where you've cut no matter what color you've chosen on it. I do post-production as a part of a lot of my work. I've had more than a few comments fro post-production pros I work with who are on PT of "How can you SEE that?" when they've been at my studio. We need the preferences/option to be able to always see every selection of any event and any cut for how we work.

So let's all just stop saying that it's better for post-production. Sometimes some/many of us can't see selected events with it as it is, so a choice needs to be available without a single doubt. Some people who have used Nuendo (mostly post-production up until now, perhaps) are used to it and/or like it, which does not translate into meaning it's better for post.

Please note that I'm not attacking you at all with this! I just want everyone to stop saying that, because it's simply not true -- again, it's just a personal preference.
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Re: Unify the Event Display (preferences) in Nuendo and Cubase

Post by duanran007 » Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:23 am

+1

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Re: Unify the Event Display (preferences) in Nuendo and Cubase

Post by Sebastian Schmidt » Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:07 pm

Yes, Pleased.
And am I missing something or are in Cubase the Fades on Audio Tracks always visible?
And sometimes the playhead almost disappeared. From a black line surounded by two white lines to only a thin black line.

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Re: Unify the Event Display (preferences) in Nuendo and Cubase

Post by are 74 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:13 pm

+1
Another frustrated user here with Nuendo event display..

Switched from Cubase artist 9 to Nuendo 8 recently :(
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Re: Unify the Event Display (preferences) in Nuendo and Cubase

Post by McSound » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:19 am

+1 selected events and fades more visible!
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