Ripple Edit - for Events and Ranges (voice overs, composing, film e.g.)

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Ripple Edit - for Events and Ranges (voice overs, composing, film e.g.)

Post by Centralmusic » Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:28 am

Having a true Ripple Edit in Cubase / Nuendo would be a huge win for those of us using Cubendo for voice (audio books, voice overs, podcasts, film etc.)

Ripple Editing allows for a convenient way to rearrange sections of a song and maintain the sync relationships without leaving unintended gaps between the clips. When adjusting the position of a clip in the Track view, than Cubase automatically adjust the start position of all subsequent clips to compensate for the change. You can choose to ripple edit just the selection, or all tracks plus meter/key changes, tempo changes, and markers.

A very fast way to rearrange Events and Markers and multiple tracks etc. together... :!:

How "Ripple Edit" works in Reaper:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS3GF41QUxs


note: Wavelab has this feature since years also !

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See this nice GIF animation from "ChrisPolus": (thank you Chris!)

"1) No ripple edit. 2) Ripple editing for one track. 3) Ripple editing for multiple tracks.
Notice how it only moves the selected clip and all clips AFTER it. No chopping up clips."

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Post by Centralmusic » Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:31 am

Most IMPORTANT point for me is that when i cut and delete audio events, then the markers stick to the audio positions!
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Post by maggie » Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:02 pm

+1
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Post by mk1x86 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:12 pm

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Post by okr » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:51 pm

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Post by Starsprinkler » Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:14 am

+1

Very useful.

Note: it must be visually very clear when Ripple Edit is activated (and in what mode), to not cause havoc when "rippling" is not wanted.

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Post by Puma0382 » Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:29 pm

Big, big +1 for this please...
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Post by Starsprinkler » Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:00 am

Here's a nice little article about Ripple Edit and why you would like to use it:
https://www.homebrewaudio.com/what-is-ripple-editing

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Post by In_Stereo » Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:23 am

This is so hugely necessary in Cubase -- it's highly important for so many practical reasons and is in most other pro DAWs for a very, very good reason.
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Post by mk1x86 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:49 am

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Post by Pablo1980 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:22 pm

+1 this and the smart tool would be golden
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Post by HowlingUlf » Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:52 pm

+1
Looks great ... but the part you're moving should determine where all of it snaps as well, right?
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Post by In_Stereo » Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:48 pm

A very important note is that when having it ripple all tracks or multiple tracks, it should also move all of the automation data on every kind of track including Groups, Auxes, etc. This is another reason that Ripple Edit is so hugely useful in these other DAWs.
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Post by ctothel » Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:34 pm

In_Stereo wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:48 pm
A very important note is that when having it ripple all tracks or multiple tracks, it should also move all of the automation data on every kind of track including Groups, Auxes, etc. This is another reason that Ripple Edit is so hugely useful in these other DAWs.
Amen!! The range functions feels like a workaround for not having something like this (though it's not bad at all if you know the right macros/key commands).

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Post by Jellyfish » Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:18 pm

Oh yes!
Been longing for this for years, I use it in Vegas pro all the time, it's such a brilliant timesaver! In Vegas, you have the options to decide what tracks or markers move with the main move when ripple is on. Brilliant. I never understood why Cubase can't do that.
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Post by shanabit » Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:36 pm

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Post by trtzbass » Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:17 pm

+1

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Post by Tommy80 » Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:27 pm

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Post by Turnicate99 » Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:28 pm

+1 I was at a friend's place last night on Reaper and saw this in action. It would be a game changer with editing.
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Post by TheDude » Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:11 pm

+1
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Post by In_Stereo » Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:54 pm

Bump. When you use it in another DAW you will yearn for it dearly in Cubase. It is a significant time-saver and workflow enhancer. Composers and post production folk I know are often confounded that I can't do this here.

Just make sure it's not an unfinished feature, as sometimes happens here, and that you can ripple EVERYthing when rippling the whole project -- ALL automation and data (including visually hidden automation and data) in ALL tracks, Groups, Instruments, and Sends. The amount of time this would save in huge scoring projects here would be monumental.
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Post by Thomas19 » Fri Nov 29, 2019 5:46 pm

Everyone knows that ripple edit is facking funtastic, and an absolutely essential feature when recording and editing the spoken voice when it is not connected to the timing of musical events. I, for one, have always exported an audio file from Cubase and opened it up in Vegas to ripple edit, then export back to Cubase. Even with all the saving and re-importing, I still save time and effort and energy doing this, but it would be even better if Cubase could handle this rather simple function.

It is important to note, however, that in Vegas the ripple edit function is not the only time saver, but also the way it navigates and cuts during the ripple edit process. That is you can select and add your splice (cut) point on the fly while still listening on, and then delete with a single keystroke to eliminate the unwanted track between the two cuts, and keep going with great ease and rapid workflow. Steinberg should look at how Vegas does this before implementing ripple edit, because they obviously developed Cubase mainly for music (which aligns material to a time position, hence no need for ripple) but those who have developed software for video and other purposes have thought more about how people work in the environment of voiceovers and other non-musical material.

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Post by In_Stereo » Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:41 pm

Thomas19 wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 5:46 pm
Steinberg should look at how Vegas does this before implementing ripple edit, because they obviously developed Cubase mainly for music (which aligns material to a time position, hence no need for ripple) but those who have developed software for video and other purposes have thought more about how people work in the environment of voiceovers and other non-musical material.
Ripple Edit would be a gigantic improvement for all music-only makers, too. I can't tell you the hundreds of times per week Ripple Edit would save me huge amounts of time while writing, scoring, and producing music, totally apart from scoring to video (which I do a lot of as well). It's such an essential feature in today's world where it's typical to have large amounts of tracks, groups, instruments, and sends, and is equally important in time or music-note-based based positioning/work.
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Post by wagzy » Sun Dec 08, 2019 1:16 am

+1 Now, this is the kinda editing feature Cubase could use!
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