[CAN-27408] Cubase 10.5 completely slow on Mac Mojave

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[CAN-27408] Cubase 10.5 completely slow on Mac Mojave

Post by Glacius » Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:40 am

Hello,

I just upgraded & installed the new 10.5 version on mac Mojave, and for the moment it's unusable, very very slow. It reacts 5s after each mouse click. The 10 still works perfectly in comparison. Did someone experienced the same?

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Post by zipb » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:56 pm

I have this intermittently. It will be fine for a bit, then get slow, sometimes getting back up to speed again after a while. Weird.
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Post by Soundcheck » Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:51 pm

Hi Glacius!
I am experimenting exactly the same issue as yours ! Mojave : 10.5 unusable, 10 version works like a charm

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Post by sunerosewagner » Sat Nov 16, 2019 5:29 am

It's completely messed up! Impossible to work!

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Post by ssamme » Sat Nov 16, 2019 3:48 pm

Hi!

I have the same issue. It's an intermittent problem. But when it occurs, impossible to work.

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Post by andreasaaser » Sat Nov 16, 2019 4:08 pm

Same here! Good at times, but then after a while slows down and I need to restart Cubase. I'm probably going to stay in 10 for a while longer, till this gets fixed.

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Post by Jsingra » Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:10 pm

What a disaster for me. i upgraded 10.5 and deleted 10. Audio performance shows disk full in red but disk is free over 30GB. i have tried disk first aid , deleted preferences but its same issue. even a single audio loop cannot be played. Yamaha, Please fix this. Its too much now. I am not being productive but spending time to fix the issues.
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Post by cubace » Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:01 pm

I thought this was releated to my RME card. At Metric Halo is firewire, my RME is also firewire. What soundcard are you using?

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Post by RichardTownsend » Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:31 pm

I have the same with Mac Mojave. What happens with me is that the project will still be playing but the GUI stops responding. Once this has happened it keeps happening and I have to reboot. I have the latest graphics drivers and my DAC is a class-compliant model so it has no specific drivers.

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Post by Airspeed » Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:36 pm

Same here with Mojave. 2015 iMac Retina 5k 27" using a UAD Apollo Twin Thunderbolt. Spinning beach-ball for almost every thing I select. Like changing a patch in a VST instrument takes about 5-20 seconds. Moving a slider or knob in almost every VST creates a spinning beach-ball. Changing a VST to a different VST basically creates a 2-5 minute long spinning beach-ball with "application not responding" when I right click the Cubase 10.5 icon so I can exit the fricken program. Super frustrated!!! : (

I'm currently downloading the full 21.90GB installer to see if maybe the 1.50GB update installer is part of the problem. Sometimes a clean install helps but in this case I'm thinking that maybe Steinberg adding new code to code from the past 20+ years is starting to bite everyone in the ass.

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Post by cubace » Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:59 pm

Airspeed wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:36 pm
Same here with Mojave. 2015 iMac Retina 5k 27" using a UAD Apollo Twin Thunderbolt. Spinning beach-ball for almost every thing I select. Like changing a patch in a VST instrument takes about 5-20 seconds. Moving a slider or knob in almost every VST creates a spinning beach-ball. Changing a VST to a different VST basically creates a 2-5 minute long spinning beach-ball with "application not responding" when I right click the Cubase 10.5 icon so I can exit the fricken program. Super frustrated!!! : (

I'm currently downloading the full 21.90GB installer to see if maybe the 1.50GB update installer is part of the problem. Sometimes a clean install helps but in this case I'm thinking that maybe Steinberg adding new code to code from the past 20+ years is starting to bite everyone in the ass.
I doubt there any idea to reinstall the application. However removing settings is usually a good medicine for cubase problems. And it seems like that I can retire my hypotheses about RME.

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Post by shogami » Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:30 pm

I'm experiencing similar. Though it was not on every session, on some session, meter stutters, display stops, and doesn't take any control from keyboard for few sec etc. I can't even START/STOP while it's at that. Though while it's frozen, Cubase still takes control if I click on START/STOP on the transport.
In combination with bug on Waves plugins' GUI, impossible to do any work...staying on 9.5 for time being I guess.

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Post by Barfnuts » Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:41 am

Same here. Just upgraded to 10.5 from 10.0 on Mojave, and it's almost COMPLETELY unusable, even with just two audio tracks and one VST plugin. 90% of the time I get that spinning coloured pinwheel that every Mac user just loves to see... can't stop/play the session, open the mixer, or even quit the program without clicking the mouse 1,000,000 times to get Cubase to respond.

SO GLAD I spent my money to "upgrade" to an unusable pile of garbage!

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Post by Damir111 » Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:12 pm

I have the same thing. MAC OS 10.14.6. Cubase 10.5

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Post by Sokolovsky » Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:21 pm

Mojave 10.14.6
I have same issues, sometimes Cubase doesn't respond for several minutes until I restart it. Also some plugins doesn't work, for example NI;s Choral and Phasis. Cubase stops respond when I open UIs of these plugins.

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Post by okr » Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:41 pm

Same issue here, it's impossible to do anything without getting a spinning beachball. OS X 10.14.6, Cubase Pro 10.5.
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Post by BNY » Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:45 am

Same here!

I hope they get this fixed and send out an hotfix or update soon.

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Post by Vinylizor » Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:23 pm

I'm finding that its working OK as with 10.0.50, but then several times a day it just gets stuck with the spinning beachball - usually while playing back, and with playback continuing but all functions frozen.

It can then take 10 minutes or so to become responsive again - the spinning stops several times briefly and it looks like its working for a few seconds, but it goers back to the beachball again.

This release, along with other issues is currently a turkey.
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Post by Nioufman » Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:11 pm

Same problem here (update from cubase 10 on mojave OS)
have someone try to reinstal cubase ?
or may i update my imac to catalina ?
or may i use cubase 10 and wait ?
or buy a windows PC :lol:

Thank's for your help.
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Post by Damir111 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:50 pm

Nioufman wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:11 pm
Same problem here (update from cubase 10 on mojave OS)
have someone try to reinstal cubase ?
or may i update my imac to catalina ?
or may i use cubase 10 and wait ?
or buy a windows PC :lol:

Thank's for your help.
On windows the problem with solo track.

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Post by kalorave » Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:44 pm

I have the same problem. Unable to use 10.5 ;/
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Post by RichardTownsend » Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:38 pm

This is a killer problem! Has anybody from Steinberg reproduced it yet?
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Post by Nioufman » Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:26 pm

today i worked 3 hours long with no problem.
It was only a recording session in the studio (no mixing , so i did not use plugin, just compressor and eq)
The last time when i had problem it was a mixing job, and using lot of plugin and vsti.
it can be that it comes from a plugin? Maybe ?
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Post by RichardTownsend » Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:32 pm

Nioufman wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:26 pm
today i worked 3 hours long with no problem.
It was only a recording session in the studio (no mixing , so i did not use plugin, just compressor and eq)
The last time when i had problem it was a mixing job, and using lot of plugin and vsti.
it can be that it comes from a plugin? Maybe ?
It’s possible. I’ve noticed that 10.5 will sometimes continue playing audio without problems for a long time even when the gui is frozen and that clicking away from Cubase, eg on a finder window, will get rid of the beach ball sometimes. I don’t know what that tells us!
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Post by RichardTownsend » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:15 am

Nioufman wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:26 pm
today i worked 3 hours long with no problem.
It was only a recording session in the studio (no mixing , so i did not use plugin, just compressor and eq)
The last time when i had problem it was a mixing job, and using lot of plugin and vsti.
it can be that it comes from a plugin? Maybe ?
I had a thought that it might be related to Kontakt, but it seems to happen in projects without Kontakt but with other VSTs. If it is plug-in related it might account for the fact that Steinberg did not pick it up in testing. Will try some more experiments tomorrow.
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