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Multiple Crashes After 10.5 Pro upgrade

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:55 pm
by CeZar
Hey lads,

Just wondering if this stuff happened to you. I upgraded yesterday (luckily I still have the 10 app).
It seems to be crashing when opening 3rd party plugins, I specifically remember it happening on Slate and Fabfilter, maybe with others too, but I was too *quiz* off already to notice.

OS: MacOSX High Sierra

The 10 version runs like butter and I've had only a few small issues, but this one gave me 4-5 in a few hours.

Anyone here had these issues? :?:

Re: Multiple Crashes After 10.5 Pro upgrade

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:12 pm
by henningsommer
Same here. It's basically unusable at the moment. Crashes every time I'm trying to open Fabfilter or izotope Plugins on a channel in a project I started working on in 10.0.4. - *sigh*

Re: Multiple Crashes After 10.5 Pro upgrade

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 6:46 pm
by Green Room
Also experiencing crashes after upgrading from 10 pro to 10.5 on Mojave

Re: Multiple Crashes After 10.5 Pro upgrade

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:02 pm
by SoundOf
So a number of times, when launching 10.5, it just crashed immediately.

Then what's crashing my Cubase is the Reason Studio plugin, worked fine on 9.5 before I upgraded straight to 10.5, but somehow, it's seeing it as a problem even if I load it on 9.5 now, even after I reinstalled Reason and updated it.

Not had the issue with other plugins, just Reason for now.

Re: Multiple Crashes After 10.5 Pro upgrade

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 2:28 am
by ewlewl
I'm having the same problem doesn't like fab filter plugins if i have the Q3 EQ plugin on a track and go to add MB plugin from fab filter i get the beach ball of death .have to force quit cubase 10.5

Re: Multiple Crashes After 10.5 Pro upgrade

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:36 pm
by CeZar
I've also noticed that opening 2 plugins at once does result in instant crash! How long do you guys think it will take until they come up with a revision?

Re: Multiple Crashes After 10.5 Pro upgrade

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:54 pm
by gargamon
Superior Drummer 3 (latest version) makes Cubase 10.5 crash here. I'm on Mac (Mojave).

Re: Multiple Crashes After 10.5 Pro upgrade

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:02 am
by sdixon
I'm on WIndows 10
Had a problem with Omnisphere being sent to the blacklist I sorted this by re-activating the correct dll. Now Cubase 10.5 will not start at all. It gets to the plugins and quits.

Error from event log:
Faulting application name: Cubase10.5.exe, version: 10.5.0.68, time stamp: 0x5da4e875
Faulting module name: dnssd.dll_unloaded, version: 3.0.0.10, time stamp: 0x4e5dcbf3
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x0000000000002170
Faulting process id: 0x1efc
Faulting application start time: 0x01d59ff19765bbff
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\Steinberg\Cubase 10.5\Cubase10.5.exe
Faulting module path: dnssd.dll
Report Id: 176cc2b2-a26f-435a-88b3-1e218c7d4e04
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:

I used the new 'shift-ctrl-alt' and launch and disabled loading of plugins and all is okay...although I now have no plugins lol. It seems Cubase 10.5 has an issue with Omnisphere 2.6. 10.0.5 is still fine and I'm using it for my critical work now.

Re: Multiple Crashes After 10.5 Pro upgrade

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:22 am
by drocksrecords
Cubase 10.0.50 pro and win10 latest version here.

Fabfilter Pro-Q3 crashes/freezes the project each time I try to insert it normally on a mixer channel.
I've reported to Fabfilter but please note that pro-Q3 does not crash on Cubase 9.5 and does not crash in Reaper 5.9

Re: Multiple Crashes After 10.5 Pro upgrade

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 11:57 am
by CeZar
Did you guys find any solution to the problems? It still crashes if I have 2 ff-q3s open at the same time. Anyone tried a clean install instead of upgrade? Would it make a difference?

Re: Multiple Crashes After 10.5 Pro upgrade

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:10 pm
by Ulvur52
I have the same problem with version 10.5. It crashes when using in conjunction with ik-Multimeda Sample Tank 4 Max.

I have Windows 10 the latest version.

Re: Multiple Crashes After 10.5 Pro upgrade

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:52 am
by markuc
Same here, Windows 10

Module "Stackhash" error, no idea, what is it ..


EventType=APPCRASH
EventTime=132198390147810799
ReportType=2
Consent=1
UploadTime=132198390159720067
ReportStatus=268435456
ReportIdentifier=8cbbbcb2-3dd8-436b-841f-9eff9463342d
IntegratorReportIdentifier=b2c272b9-37aa-46b8-b768-4a6c1d1c5bd7
Wow64Host=34404
NsAppName=Cubase10.5.exe
OriginalFilename=Cubase10.exe
AppSessionGuid=00000c70-0005-0077-8a46-f448b6a9d501
TargetAppId=W:00066254c9a0595bb63bff3c30e76262042b00000000!00001c2a4aa7a6136c75022aa9cf3438c5406eceb9e9!Cubase10.5.exe
TargetAppVer=2019//10//14:21:28:21!4d17653!Cubase10.5.exe
BootId=4294967295
TargetAsId=3876
UserImpactVector=271582000
IsFatal=1
EtwNonCollectReason=1
Response.BucketId=4eefde9d52f08799b9e4e6693bee5464
Response.BucketTable=4
Response.LegacyBucketId=1865869485289657444
Response.type=4
Sig[0].Name=Název aplikace
Sig[0].Value=Cubase10.5.exe
Sig[1].Name=Verze aplikace
Sig[1].Value=10.5.0.68
Sig[2].Name=Časové razítko aplikace
Sig[2].Value=5da4e875
Sig[3].Name=Název chybného modulu
Sig[3].Value=StackHash_1ff8
Sig[4].Name=Verze chybného modulu
Sig[4].Value=10.0.17763.831
Sig[5].Name=Časové razítko chybného modulu
Sig[5].Value=1f1a0210
Sig[6].Name=Kód výjimky
Sig[6].Value=c0000374
Sig[7].Name=Posun výjimky

Re: Multiple Crashes After 10.5 Pro upgrade

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:25 am
by rallay01
Same here.... Crashes with almost every Third-Party-Plugin. New Preferences, every plugin latest version, drivers latest version, but 10.5 still unusable.
Big issue for seemingly a lot of users.
Steinberg, any idea? Will an update fix this?

Re: Multiple Crashes After 10.5 Pro upgrade

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:23 pm
by karuboy
SoundOf wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:02 pm
So a number of times, when launching 10.5, it just crashed immediately.

Then what's crashing my Cubase is the Reason Studio plugin, worked fine on 9.5 before I upgraded straight to 10.5, but somehow, it's seeing it as a problem even if I load it on 9.5 now, even after I reinstalled Reason and updated it.

Not had the issue with other plugins, just Reason for now.
I had the same problem with Reason Rack Plugin, but my problem has been solved after I installed the latest version of CodeMeter runtime from WIBU site.

Re: Multiple Crashes After 10.5 Pro upgrade

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:58 pm
by rallay01
New Info from Steinberg: 10.5 doesn't support High Sierra on Mac. Anyone experienced same issue on Mojave?

Re: Multiple Crashes After 10.5 Pro upgrade

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:01 pm
by Sonic Peasant
Same problem here. Cubase 10.5 Pro randomly crashes both when working with
  • 3rd-party plugins (Superior Drummer 3, loading a new set),
  • Steinberg plugins (Padshop 2, loading a user sample) and
  • when applying Cubase (i.e. Steinberg) built-in functions (Normalize an audio clip).
It also randomly crashed a large number of times when doing other normal operations that I don't recall what they were. All crashes were identical hard crashes where the application would completely disappear instantly. Basically, it was so utterly unusable that I couldn't get any work done at all and had to start working in Cubase 10.0.40 again (which is rock solid on the same system).

In other threads where the OP mentions the use of a specific plugin or vendor (Superior Drummer, MacDSP, etc ... ) the standard answer seems to be to point to the 3rd-party vendor as if the problem lies there. This is not helpful as it is quite obvious from the diverse crash scenarios described above that the entire Cubase application itself is unstable and can seemingly crash during just about any operation.

Deflecting each individual scenario to the respective 3rd-party vendor mentioned just blurs the picture and delays the time it takes until Steinberg owns this problem and fixes it.

And, yes, I do have the latest version of Superior Drummer 3 and the latest version of Mojave.

Re: Multiple Crashes After 10.5 Pro upgrade

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:58 pm
by JamisonBoaz
10 is rock solid, but 10.5 is giving me major CPU spikes when working in projects and templates created in 10 with minor plugins loaded and no audio present. Performance meters in 10.5 are completely maxed out at all times. My system is well above spec, and 10 handles much larger projects with zero issues.

Re: Multiple Crashes After 10.5 Pro upgrade

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:24 pm
by sirWombat
Continuous crashing here too. Usually with changing presets with 2C Breeze 2.0, but not limited to that.

Does not give a crash report, it is just stuck and needs a force quit.

macOS Sierra 10.12.6
Mac Pro (Late 2013)

Re: Multiple Crashes After 10.5 Pro upgrade

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:31 pm
by Sonic Peasant
The 10.5.5 hot fix was good enough for me to switch back from 10.0 and start using 10.5 again. I haven't verified that all of my problems mentioned above are gone, but at least it doesn't crash all the time and I haven't had any problems working with it now for a couple of days.

Re: Multiple Crashes After 10.5 Pro upgrade

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:34 pm
by Anderoid
:?: Cubase Pro 10.5 Win10

Score edit crashes while using. Almost unusable. 10.0.05 Works perfect.

When opening an old score everything has changed. There is now an enharmonic shift that isn't present in 10.0.

No curser is present so its hard to follow the sequence.

Re: Multiple Crashes After 10.5 Pro upgrade

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:38 pm
by sirWombat
Sorry I didn't include my Cubase version in my above post.

It's the Cubase Pro 10.5.5 that is crashing here, no improvement from the 10.5 on macOS Sierra.

Re: Multiple Crashes After 10.5 Pro upgrade

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:45 pm
by CeZar
Correct, it just gets stuck, no crash report, we have to force quit it...

I'm 100% sure this is a mojave problem too, it's the 3rd party plugins, and again, having 2 open at the same time. It's ridiculous to say that they don't support Sierra and High Sierra, there isn't much of a difference between the OSX versions if they make it work well on Mojave. I'm actually thinking that I've wasted my money upgrading this software and steinberg is getting away with it! It's been 2 months already and nobody gives a damn about our problems....

Re: Multiple Crashes After 10.5 Pro upgrade

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 7:32 pm
by Sonic Peasant
sirWombat wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:38 pm
Sorry I didn't include my Cubase version in my above post.

It's the Cubase Pro 10.5.5 that is crashing here, no improvement from the 10.5 on macOS Sierra.
Aaah ... and I should obviously not have celebrated so soon because just right now it hard-crashed again. Completely zapped into non-existence. Sorry!

Re: Multiple Crashes After 10.5 Pro upgrade

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 7:39 pm
by Sonic Peasant
Sonic Peasant wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 7:32 pm
sirWombat wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:38 pm
Sorry I didn't include my Cubase version in my above post.

It's the Cubase Pro 10.5.5 that is crashing here, no improvement from the 10.5 on macOS Sierra.
Aaah ... and I should obviously not have celebrated so soon because just right now it hard-crashed again. Completely zapped into non-existence. Sorry!
... also this time when loading a new drum kit in Superior Drummer 3 [latest version]. It was no problem loading the default kit, but when loading a different preset "Radio Rock Yamaha" (still from within the default sample package) the whole DAW just disappeared from screen. Tried twice now. Exactly the same.

Re: Multiple Crashes After 10.5 Pro upgrade

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:46 am
by JohnS
Hi

I am finding also on Windows 10 Cubase disappears when using Jamstix 4.
Changig kits etc does the job.
There is also no log or crash dump

All the best
John