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Re: Still using eLicenser?

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:06 pm
by Dietz
:mrgreen: Sturm und Drang.

Re: Still using eLicenser?

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:48 pm
by Timo
Copy protection that has not been compromised during the last years: Pace iLok 2/3 since 2015, Steinberg eLicenser (USB) since 2009, and a few smaller companies with very good protection (Moddart, LennarDigital and a few more). Everything else - including Steinberg's SEL - is widely available fully working without paying. Your investment is only safe and you'll only be able to sell stuff later on the used market if it's iLok or eLicenser (USB) protection. For now.

I bought quite a lot of Steinberg's stuff, and if you ask me if I'm happy that Steinberg moved HALion, Groove Agent, Dorico, Iconica, Cubase Elements, Wavelab Elements and more to SEL: I am not and I wish they would stop doing so. And if you ask me if I will buy more SEL stuff: I probably won't. No chance to sell it later, the used market for these products is non existent.

I bought some stuff in the past that is only serial protected (e. g. Valhalla), because that's fair: You are an honest user without any disadvantages compared to the stolen stuff. But SEL means you pay and have to accept all the disadvantages of the system, and the freebie kids use it as often as they like on as many computers as they like without any limits. In short: If you pay, you'll be the dumb one.

So Steinberg: Make SEL safe and not compromiseable, then it may be an alternative solution. As long as it isn't (like currently): Keep away from it and please use your dongle system for the time being.

Just my 2 cents.

Re: Still using eLicenser?

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:11 am
by Jean-Michel B
I am à Pro Tools user, and when I had the opportunity to use Pace's Cloud, I tried it. But one morning I had not been able to work because Pace's Cloud was broken. I decided to stay away from that and came back to that old but working iLok.

Re: Still using eLicenser?

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:47 am
by fenderchris
Das Boot!
:shock:

Re: Still using eLicenser?

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:39 am
by Jean-Michel B
Sorry, I don't speak german. "Das boot" seems to mean "The boat", according to a famous movie. :lol:

Re: Still using eLicenser?

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:49 pm
by MattiasNYC
Or maybe we should give this thread das boot...?

Related:

https://europe.easybranches.com/norway/1742100

Re: Still using eLicenser?

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 4:16 pm
by ltf3
I've never had an issue with the dongle... it comes with me most everywhere!

But I do agree that it would be nice to have two instances... say one installed as a "soft" key on a computer ( perhaps it has to check in with a management account to make sure two versions aren't running simultaneously ) and one on a Dongle to move around. I'm always terrified of losing the dongle when 'out' and then being crippled at home in the 'studio'. Although I guess there's always the "demo download" or Dongle replacement Program to fall back on ... but somehow I know there would be an issue when I really needed it! ;-)

I do also have a Cubase license ( not fully up to date.. left over from teaching days ) which is on another Dongle so if push came to shove I could get something done. If I updated it to V10 it would be like having 1.75 Nuendo licenses! lol

Re: Still using eLicenser?

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:30 pm
by fenderchris
MattiasNYC wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:49 pm
Or maybe we should give this thread das boot...?

Related:

https://europe.easybranches.com/norway/1742100
I'm still sinking about that one.