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Nuendo 10.2 - Video Rendering & maintenance update available

Post by TimoWildenhain » Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:15 pm

Dear forum-members,

I'm happy to announce that we've finally released Nuendo 10.2, providing the Video Rendering* (MP4) feature
and more than 45 fixes in areas such as ARA, Direct Offline Processing, Field Recorder, Video Cut Detection and many more.

*Please note that on the Windows platform, Windows 10 is required to use the Video Rendering function.


You can download the free update and version history here: Nuendo 10.2 Download

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Post by mac88104 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:59 pm

OMG, thanks !
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Post by uarte » Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:04 pm

Hi Timo! Good news! BTW, the video rendering feature appears to currently support only 1080p MP4/H264 with stereo AAC at 16 bit... this is okay for now since at least there is progress as we see the new video engine finally pick up this feature from the Quicktime days -- but are you planning on adding other audio/video options/codecs? This is pretty limiting if this is all that will be included.

We would also ideally benefit greatly from the capability to just replace audio in the clip that leaves the original video data intact and does not do any recompression. But more codecs/options are more important for now. Can you comment on that please?

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Post by drorh4 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:24 pm

Hello Timo.
Thnx for updating us.
As I and others wrote, I stopped using the demo after a week or so and waited for the video rendering to come out plus fixes.
I think this is the time to demo the real full 10. Is it possible to demo it again? after the 2 delays Im beyond my demo time.

Plus - 720 hours of demoing is of course an absurd. most of the demo times is wasted on vacations of summer, sleeping, working on N8.
What happened to the old demo program that counted hours of a real use?

We are Nuendo users will buy the update of course, most of us are pros here, but we need to check stuff thoroughly before using it.
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Post by mtouren » Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:46 pm

Thanks for the update Luis and Timo :!:
Wishing that there is the Ripple Edit viewtopic.php?f=292&t=161734 ;)

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Post by Dolfo » Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:17 pm

Export window redesigned. Well done!
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Post by rodneygates » Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:40 pm

Thanks, Timo!!
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Post by Getalife2 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:54 pm

drorh4 wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:24 pm
Hello Timo.
Thnx for updating us.
As I and others wrote, I stopped using the demo after a week or so and waited for the video rendering to come out plus fixes.
I think this is the time to demo the real full 10. Is it possible to demo it again? after the 2 delays Im beyond my demo time.

Plus - 720 hours of demoing is of course an absurd. most of the demo times is wasted on vacations of summer, sleeping, working on N8.
What happened to the old demo program that counted hours of a real use?

We are Nuendo users will buy the update of course, most of us are pros here, but we need to check stuff thoroughly before using it.
All you need to do the demo again is an additional elicenser. The only thing about the demo process that is expired is you can't run the demo again on the same elicenser. If I was seriously considering an application this expensive I would not have a problem buying or lay my hands on additional elicenser to demo with. But that's just me.
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Post by drorh4 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:47 pm

Is your personal name is Timo?
Are you here to give elicensers for free?
Are you the guy from my bank branch know what I need to ask for my software supplier?

Yeah, This is just you. Stop writing in the name of Strindberg and the holy spirit. Im not the only one here
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Post by Robin Walsh » Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:37 pm

Great stuff!!
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Re: Nuendo 10.2 - Video Rendering & maintenance update available

Post by profdraper » Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:15 pm

uarte wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:04 pm
Hi Timo! Good news! BTW, the video rendering feature appears to currently support only 1080p MP4/H264 with stereo AAC at 16 bit... this is okay for now since at least there is progress as we see the new video engine finally pick up this feature from the Quicktime days -- but are you planning on adding other audio/video options/codecs? This is pretty limiting if this is all that will be included.

We would also ideally benefit greatly from the capability to just replace audio in the clip that leaves the original video data intact and does not do any recompression. But more codecs/options are more important for now. Can you comment on that please?
++1 - yes, a little surprised at the early limitations here.
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Post by Antonio Escobar » Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:41 pm

Thanks for the new features.

Export video is REALLY limited. It should be more like the "export audio" feature. And it failed at first. The workaround: export audio in realtime and, when it fails, back to the offline process. I think this feature is great but needs to be more polished.

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Post by Getalife2 » Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:04 am

drorh4 wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:47 pm
Is your personal name is Timo?
Are you here to give elicensers for free?
Are you the guy from my bank branch know what I need to ask for my software supplier?

Yeah, This is just you. Stop writing in the name of Strindberg and the holy spirit. Im not the only one here
Sorry I really did not mean to make you stressed out. I have 2 elcensers and have run several of these trials twice myself.

If you will PM me your PayPal email, I'll send you $30 to buy an elicenser. No, I'm not kidding at all. I would be happy to do it. I hope your day gets better.
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Post by CServ » Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:25 am

Something weird...I always run the elicenser after I update Nuendo or Cubase. This time I was met with three failures, dialog boxes saying this version of elicenser was too old. First time it's ever happened to me in all the years using Cubase and Nuendo.

Anyhow, I updated through the menu, installed the latest version from the web and it all works now.

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Post by Getalife2 » Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:28 am

CServ wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:25 am
Something weird...I always run the elicenser after I update Nuendo or Cubase. This time I was met with three failures, dialog boxes saying this version of elicenser was too old. First time it's ever happened to me in all the years using Cubase and Nuendo.

Anyhow, I updated through the menu, installed the latest version from the web and it all works now.
Same exact thing happened here.
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Post by MarkRM » Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:02 am

I must admit I'm disappointed with the video export functionality as well. This was a big reason for me upgrading from Cubase to Nuendo, and as it stands it's not really useable for me.

Just little things ... our business supplies H264 video with AAC striped at 320 kbps as a standard preview, and I can't select that audio quality. I also can't quickly restripe the video that's in there (like how Logic Pro does it), so it needs to be re-rendered every time. That takes awhile, and also doesn't even seem to offer the full benefits of re-rendering: I tried exporting two videos on the video track as one and it wouldn't include the second video in the render. I was excited/hoping for similar options to the Audio Export window, where I could bounce out multiple videos (for example, different TVC edit durations) at the same time using cycle markers. Plus, it's just really buggy and fails for me on offline export.

I think Studio One's video export, introduced in 4.5, is (while not perfect) a good example of doing this right. I really hope this is improved quickly.

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Post by Timeline » Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:03 am

This is a great start. But the ability to export multiple video clips that correspond to Cycle markers for gaming reference is a must. And more video functionality, at least 320kps or the option to replace with full PCM wav.

But great work to get this finally in there!! it still has its value and i'm sure will improve further no doubt.
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Post by GNP » Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:51 am

Timeline wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:03 am
This is a great start. But the ability to export multiple video clips that correspond to Cycle markers for gaming reference is a must. And more video functionality, at least 320kps or the option to replace with full PCM wav.

But great work to get this finally in there!! it still has its value and i'm sure will improve further no doubt.
Bingo, my thoughts exactly. Would be great to be able to export multiple videos based on Cycle Markers. A total must.

But at least the Audio Export dialog window is redesigned, much better!
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Post by tepa » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:16 am

Just exported video between my timeline locator !! THANKS !!!! It was so needed to me .... ;)
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Post by Centralmusic » Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:13 pm

MarkRM wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:02 am
I think Studio One's video export, introduced in 4.5, is (while not perfect) a good example of doing this right.
This is not the best solution in Studio One, several bugs because of dependency on third-party video tools e.g. should be mentioned...
It´s better to have this Inhouse, this is the right way to go.
But in the other points, I agree with you.
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Post by MarkRM » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:19 am

Centralmusic wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:13 pm
MarkRM wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:02 am
I think Studio One's video export, introduced in 4.5, is (while not perfect) a good example of doing this right.
This is not the best solution in Studio One, several bugs because of dependency on third-party video tools e.g. should be mentioned...
It´s better to have this Inhouse, this is the right way to go.
But in the other points, I agree with you.
Yeah, you're right, doing it in-house is definitely better. I've only used the feature in Studio One a couple of times without issue so there's probably some behind-the-scenes problems with its implementation, but for me it was more about the user-facing elements of its video exporting - there's still room for improvement, but the options they did include in the export dialogue are quite good.

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Post by uarte » Fri Sep 06, 2019 5:18 pm

Centralmusic wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:13 pm
MarkRM wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:02 am
I think Studio One's video export, introduced in 4.5, is (while not perfect) a good example of doing this right.
This is not the best solution in Studio One, several bugs because of dependency on third-party video tools e.g. should be mentioned...
It´s better to have this Inhouse, this is the right way to go.
But in the other points, I agree with you.
Agreed. The third-party dependency of Studio One's video features -- and actually Studio One's video features have OS dependencies which are even worse since each platform is different and subject to the whims of the OS developers (which got Steinberg in trouble with QuickTime dependency in the first place!) -- is a serious limitation, much better to keep it in house as Steinberg has now decided to do it, all things considered. Especially with Apple's and Microsoft's lousy track record of consistency/support.

Agreed on user-facing features... and most importantly, I think Steinberg needs to add more options/settings/codecs to the video export, and hopefully a full audio replace feature instead of rerendering the video too.

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Post by AlexBell » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:42 am

Thanks for the new audio export panel, much better. :-)

Can't find the video export for some reason, I'll keep looking

Update: No, can't find it, do I have to do something to activate the video export function?

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Post by -steve- » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:01 pm

drorh4 wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:47 pm
Is your personal name is Timo?
Are you here to give elicensers for free?
Are you the guy from my bank branch know what I need to ask for my software supplier?

Yeah, This is just you. Stop writing in the name of Strindberg and the holy spirit. Im not the only one here
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Post by Iftekharul Anam » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:58 pm

AlexBell wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:42 am
Can't find the video export for some reason, I'll keep looking

Update: No, can't find it, do I have to do something to activate the video export function?
If you are using Windows platform, please note that Windows 10 is required for the video export feature.

It is not supposed to be working on Windows 7 in case you are using it.
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