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In the competition for disposable drum $$ - Toontrack are taking the lead... :)

"EZdrummer 2 is a completely new program including a host of groundbreaking songwriting tools, new drum and percussion sounds, a much improved audio engine and much, much more. Read the full press release here."

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Clyde, do you know if they have a VST3 version?
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C.LYDE101 wrote:In the competition for disposable drum $$ - Toontrack are taking the lead... :)

"EZdrummer 2 is a completely new program including a host of groundbreaking songwriting tools, new drum and percussion sounds, a much improved audio engine and much, much more. Read the full press release here."

http://www.toontrack.com/products.asp?item=7
Seems good...buying Version 1 now means you also get the upgrade to Version 2 free when it's officially release on 6th May 2014...only a month away.

Steinberg - you need to compete. At 139euros it looks like it will steal a fair bit of your thunder. You need to respond, a release for Groove Agent 4 was announced 14 months ago - customers are losing patience and interest at your lack of updates/news regarding a release date.

Please compete with your competitors! :x
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I think they're just sitting on their products, so that they can lose more money.

Sarcasm aside, if GA4 is anything for drum instruments, like HALion 5 is for synthesizers/samplers, it'll be awesome. Obviously it will use VST3 which means additional features (like native per note modulation). This reminds me... I had been thinking about the drum editor in Cubase. Maybe we'll see some new cool features? :) If not, then we should, Steinberg! :D
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Elektrobolt wrote:I think they're just sitting on their products, so that they can lose more money.

Sarcasm aside, if GA4 is anything for drum instruments, like HALion 5 is for synthesizers/samplers, it'll be awesome. Obviously it will use VST3 which means additional features (like native per note modulation). This reminds me... I had been thinking about the drum editor in Cubase. Maybe we'll see some new cool features? :) If not, then we should, Steinberg! :D
I can't understand why so little is done to keep those 'fringe' music software purchasers loyal to Steinberg. Even a little information is better than none at all!

Customer retention should be the forefront of the agenda...after all, what's the point offering an upgrade path if all users of previous versions abandon Steinberg before its release...seems a little ironic!?

Matthias Quellmann...please update us!
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Re: Groove Agent 4 announcement // updated April, 2014

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Ok, ok...Here is the update:

1. Groove Agent 4 already includes 20,000 samples and counting.
2. We are starting with the beta phase this month.
3. Groove Agent 4 will be released in the third quarter of 2014...
4. ...and will cost less than Groove Agent 3!
5. And that is how the Acoustic Agent looks like (when I don't have my glasses on...):

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wow...
very impressed, thank you Matthias! :D

one question/big question:
has GA4 also sliders for "style/groove/complexity/accent/fills/half tempo" like GA3...?


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Matthias Quellmann wrote:Ok, ok...Here is the update:


5. And that is how the Acoustic Agent looks like (when I don't have my glasses on...):

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Matthias Quellmann wrote:1. Groove Agent 4 already includes 20,000 samples and counting.
2. We are starting with the beta phase this month.
3. Groove Agent 4 will be released in the third quarter of 2014...
4. ...and will cost less than Groove Agent 3!
5. And that is how the Acoustic Agent looks like (when I don't have my glasses on...):
Nice one.. eh.. five, Matthias! ;) (Have fun beta testing.)
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Matthias Quellmann wrote:Ok, ok...Here is the update:
3. Groove Agent 4 will be released in the third quarter of 2014...
Will you release a dedicated hw pad device for it, like Machine or Push?

Ok, I do not expect an honest answer :lol:

But a Cubase 8 with additional Ableton Live-like Session view + hardware with 8x8 velocity sensitive pads for controlling both GA4 grooves and session view in Cubase 8 would be a big integrated step forward.

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dangerousbrian wrote:
Chad Johnson wrote:I would just like to know if we can run Groove Agent 3 in Cubase 7. Is that possible?
It seems to run perfectly for me.

Cubase 7 just uses its VST 2.x compatibility and uses the plugin in its 32bit form.

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Centralmusic wrote: has GA4 also sliders for "style/groove/complexity/accent/fills/half tempo" like GA3...?


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Bacizone wrote:
But a Cubase 8 with additional Ableton Live-like Session view + hardware with 8x8 velocity sensitive pads for controlling both GA4 grooves and session view in Cubase 8 would be a big integrated step forward.
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Thank you Matthias.

If you keep regularly updating us as you said from the outset, I'm sure you'll retain way more loyal users.

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I would mix each microphone in an entry in the Cubase mixer.
example:
Kick in: enter 1 mono
Kick out: mono entrer2
Snare top: entrer3 mono
Snare below: Enter 4 mono
tom1: enter: 5 mono
tom2: enter 6 mono
tom3: enter 7 mono
tom 4: enter 8 mono
hh: enter 9 mono
OH: enter 10 strereo
atmosphere: enter 11 stereo

All on track separated and subgroup in the mixer cubase

The closer a mix of acoustic drums, a real mixer.

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I wonder if Groove Agent 4 will sell as an update to GA3, or will we have to buy it outright.
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hotchickenbone wrote:I wonder if Groove Agent 4 will sell as an update to GA3, or will we have to buy it outright.
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There will be an update from GA3 to GA4 of course!
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Thanks for that info, I am so excited!!
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Hi Will there be an upgrade option for owners of GA1 and GA2 to GA4?

Thanks in advance.
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I know some people loved Groove Agent for its preset patterns and complexity slider. But that always seemed sort of gimmicky and toy-like to me. It was like the drum machine equivalent of a home organ with goofy auto-accompaniment styles and patterns. Again, that was just my take on the instrument.

So when I saw the new Groove Agent SE in Cubase 7.5, I thought, "Right on! This is the Battery killer that I have been waiting for!" The only thing that is missing is a built in step sequencer. So if Steinberg can combine an improved version of the Beat Designer MIDI plugin with the sound engine and interface of Groove Agent SE, that would be awesome.

Preset patterns (with a complexity control) could be cool as well. But I tend to program my own drum parts.
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Sorry, Groove Agent 3 was nothing like " a home organ with goofy auto-accompaniment styles and patterns. " Plus it does have major complexity control. That is an insult especially considering how much time and effort it took to create. That being said, GA4 should be off the chain!
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hotchickenbone wrote:Sorry, Groove Agent 3 was nothing like " a home organ with goofy auto-accompaniment styles and patterns. " Plus it does have major complexity control. That is and insult especially considering how much time and effort it took to create. That being said, GA4 should be off the chain!
It's irrelevant how much time and effort it took to create Groove Agent 3. The instrument either does or does not meet customer needs. I personally didn't have a need for it.
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Each to their own I guess. If youre good at programming your own beats that's awesome! I for one don't have time or the vision to create beats, partly because Im a keyboard player. The best part is being able to manipulate the midi score afterwards. That's where you can really put your personal touch on it. I do appreciate your opinion, just not the "home organ" comparison. Ive switched out samples as well to mix it up. Have a good one!
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I am a jazz / blues /fusion guitar player and was happy about the various jazz related drum parts in GA3. I would llove to see more like that and as someone said earlier, easy configuration of song structures. Similar to EZdrummer 2's new feature. Perhaps put the structure in place then let GA4 intuitively transition from section to section. (just spit balling). Just don't forget us jazz players. We need technology as much as the Dance Music Steinberg seems most interested in.
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@ Steinberg: Will there also be a special discount price for Cubase 7 (GA SE 4) owners ?? :D
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