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Re: Lyric verses

Post by Romanos401 » Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:58 am

Hi All (& Daniel)

I have another feature request. I will start by saying that this very well may be insignificant enough as to not be worth the trouble. If so, no problem. I've discovered that when setting a hymn, lyrics do not look quite right when you have the interval of a second in the S&A parts with independent stems. This is obviously a specific-use case so again, I understand if this isn't worth pursuing. Just the same, I'm wondering if it would be possible to have a toggle in engrave mode that would allow the centering of text to be to the note head proper or the stem. That slight difference is sometimes enough to make things look right or fit in well when you have tight spacing.

Here's a little video to show what I mean. The video is unlisted so only members reading this post will be able to view it. https://youtu.be/89qciI2T7pE

There is the obvious (and comparably easy) work around of simply nudging the text in engrave mode and I was able to achieve the results I wanted so there's no problem in that regard.


As a totally unrelated issue, I was setting plainchant in simplified notation (modern round noteheads on a modern stave, stemless) and was wondering if I'm missing a setting for stemless noteheads or if the only way to achieve it is by -3 3/8 on the stem length.
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Re: Lyric verses

Post by Michael Haslam » Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:25 am

Nice demo of your problem, Romanos401. Can you tell me how you entered the apostrophe in off-'ring? It’s the wrong way round (common in apps eg MS Word that use “smart quotes”) so did you just enter a ' and Dorico turned it into a ‘ or did you enter a ’ and Dorico switched it?

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Re: Lyric verses

Post by Romanos401 » Mon Apr 10, 2017 2:19 pm

I just typed a regular apostrophe. Dorico did its thing.
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Re: Lyric verses

Post by piano_jochen » Sun Aug 13, 2017 12:22 am

Are there any plans to make verse/line numbering as flexible as repeat endings? I need to do a numbering like this, but it is rather complicated to get this into Dorico with the current verse numbering options...
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Re: Lyric verses

Post by Evan Scamman » Sun Aug 13, 2017 12:40 am

+1 on customizable verse number text.

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Re: Lyric verse number when first word is sometimes missing.

Post by pafnooty » Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:08 pm

Familiar example is "O come all ye faithful" with second verse "Sing choirs of angels". Is there a way to have the automatic verse numbers align with either a blank, a non-printing character, or a line instead of the first word of the second verse? Right now the "2." appears next to "Sing" and not aligned with "1.".

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Re: Lyric verses

Post by Daniel at Steinberg » Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:16 pm

No, at the moment the verse number will always appear immediately before the first lyric on a system.

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Re: Lyric verses

Post by Derrek » Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:08 am

A hard (non-breaking) space will work.
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