Roli & Halion

echoes_in_the_attic · August 18, 2017, 5:13pm

lulu m:

echoes in the attic:

Cool, thanks. So it sounds like I can browse through the factory library and not have to load the script every time right? It sounds like that’s what you’re saying but then the last part about patches that use the script threw me off. But hopefully you are effectively saying that you don’t have to load the script every time you change patches, it will stay there. Yes?

Good news is that I found a way to demo again by deleting my elicenser stuff and using a different email to download a one month demo. Now i need to figure out how to load the script.

I’ve already found something strange though. I changed the midi channel to A2 on a program, which should respond to mpe data in bitwig (which sends channels 2-16) but it did not respond. It only responds when set to channel A1, even while set to “force mpe” which makes the device only listen to channels 2-16. Very weird. Makes no sense.

That’s not exactly what I said. A script is loaded with the program you load into a slot, if there was a script saved within it in the first place!!
A script is a block IN your program that has a reference to a script file on your disk! A program saved without a script block, will NOT load a script!!
Also browsing through the library doesn’t load a script, you must load the program into a slot in Halion, before it will become active!

Sorry, I don’t know much about bitwig, as I don’t use it much, so I’m not a specialist here, but you must use Halion as a ‘multi-timbral’ instrument! That means that you must use multiple instances (16 for 16 polyphony) of a program in the slotrack. Just one instance set to midi channel A2 doesn’t do it!
Halion is NOT a MPE capable synth, but you can make it work using OR note-expression (Bitwig use also note-expression, but a.f.o.i.k., only for it’s own synth’s, so you can’t go that way) OR by using Halion as a Multi-timbral instrument.

Test it, try it and have fun with this great synth

Hey, I really appreciate your answers. Ok so my fear was correct. Every time you load a new preset from the factory, you have to load the script again to use mpe.

As far as your comment about needing multiple instances as a multi-timbral instrument, yes I know that, however the first note sent by bitwig in mpe mode is always to channel 2, so it should receive the first note if set to A2 right? I was testing to make sure that the first note was received, which it wasn’t. So something very weird is going on here. A midi monitor plugin confirms that midi data is being received on channel 2 before halion, but halion only receives midi when set to A1. So strange, because all plugins (at least in VST2) will not receive midi when in mpe mode if the channel is set to channel 1 (since it sends starting with channel 2). I’ll try to ask bitwig, who knows what’s happening.