VU meter/Peak meter/both option for all audio channels

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VU meter/Peak meter/both option for all audio channels

Post by ultradust » Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:02 am

For some engineers, peak meters are of little to no use on channels. When using a console, they tend to look at calibrated VUs and would like to do the same in Cubase. These users would like the ability in Cubase to switch any audio meter between peak reading and VU, or to display multiple meters in thinner lines, similar to Pro Tools' implementation.

Many pro engineers already use VU (or other integrating) meter plugins such as Klanghelm VUMT, PSP TripleMeter, and HoRNet VU Meter.

It's really surprising that DAWs continue to focus on peak metering. Peak meters really aren't useful for mixing. (You might as well just have a clipping light that goes off whenever 0dBFS is exceeded - the peaks themselves don't help with mixing.) However, continuously integrating/averaging meters like VU, LUFS, etc. are hugely useful because you get a better idea on the overall energy of each track.

Cubase users shouldn't have to buy third-party meters just to get per-channel averaging analysis. It's a fairly basic, fundamental requirement - almost as important as having faders in the mixer.

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Re: VU meter/Peak meter/both option for all audio channels

Post by ruffindajungle » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:02 pm

+1
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Re: VU meter/Peak meter/both option for all audio channels

Post by nucube » Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:46 pm

Yes, that would be a great feature

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Post by maggie » Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:57 am

Did you try Sleepy Time MonoChannel and StereoChannel? They are for free:

https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2014/0 ... -time-dsp/
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Re: VU meter/Peak meter/both option for all audio channels

Post by ultradust » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:10 pm

Maggie, thank you for adding this to the list of options.

Would you agree that it would be preferable to have such meters built-in to Cubase? See Harrison Mixbus for an example of how this could be done.

A big challenge with using third-party tools is that they cannot be easily integrated into the MixConsole view or per channel; the user has to manually add the meters per channel and then open/close them in a plugin interface. This requires a lot of extra work and gets "in the way"; alternatively, having them built into the mixer would streamline the process. Also, the meters have to be manually calibrated depending on Cubase configuration, which many users might not realize; built-in meters could automatically adjust to the Cubase configuration.

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Re: VU meter/Peak meter/both option for all audio channels

Post by Winter Rat » Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:14 am

+1
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Post by Home Studio 87 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:51 pm

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Re: VU meter/Peak meter/both option for all audio channels

Post by maggie » Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:22 pm

Yes, I would agree. I have also used the SleepyTime tools as a free alternative, until Steinberg integrates it into Cubase. Steinberg and Harrison are working together, maybe something is coming in this direction.
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Re: VU meter/Peak meter/both option for all audio channels

Post by battleangel » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:01 pm

+1 oh yes please. Right now I changed colours in 'metering-appearance' to reproduce visually what I could expect by seeing VU meter. Not perfect but easier than inserting 3rd party plugin on every channel

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Re: VU meter/Peak meter/both option for all audio channels

Post by liljefelt » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:38 am

+1
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Re: VU meter/Peak meter/both option for all audio channels

Post by SledDriver » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:40 am

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Post by Sonico » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:21 pm

This would be a great addition to cubase. I use klanghelm VUMT as an insert plugin but having a RMS reading in each channel as an option would be a nice feature for me!!
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Re: VU meter/Peak meter/both option for all audio channels

Post by Prock » Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:13 pm

+1

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Post by KHS » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:18 pm

+1
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Post by Tommy80 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:21 pm

+1
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Re: VU meter/Peak meter/both option for all audio channels

Post by Evertone » Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:38 pm

+1 Yes!!
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Re: VU meter/Peak meter/both option for all audio channels

Post by galoz » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:21 am

+1
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Re: VU meter/Peak meter/both option for all audio channels

Post by cmodica » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:30 am

It is not great addition. It is a necessity ! We need it because without that Cubase it is not a Professional tools.

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Post by STK » Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:06 pm

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Re: VU meter/Peak meter/both option for all audio channels

Post by Accel0001 » Fri Mar 16, 2018 11:14 pm

+1
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Re: VU meter/Peak meter/both option for all audio channels

Post by Reflection » Fri Mar 16, 2018 11:58 pm

+1

I use color on the meter for now. But more options in this catagory is welcome in my studio (wouldent min a pre fader meter option too)
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Post by simthembile » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:56 pm

+1

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Post by SF_Green » Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:46 pm

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Re: VU meter/Peak meter/both option for all audio channels

Post by Quinn3k3 » Sun Mar 18, 2018 12:49 am

+1

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Re: VU meter/Peak meter/both option for all audio channels

Post by MGil » Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:34 pm

+1
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