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Bug? Custom Color Preferences not recalled reliably

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I can't get NU10 to reliably save/recall Custom Color Preferences. I'll attach a screen-video showing the issue.

The strange thing is that there is _one_ Preference set which I saved two weeks ago that in fact _does_ recall colors, but I can't recall the same colors with a newly saved one. :roll:

Is this a common problem, or is it related to specific variables like OS (Win7 Prof.) or certain Preferences?
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They've unfortunately never worked properly. It's a bit of a house of cards as to whether they'll save and load correctly.

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*Yikes!*

Apparently, I used NU 5.5 as my preferred DAW for so long that I didn't even realize all those shortcomings which crept in with the "updated" GUI back then.
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@Steinberg - can someone look into this, please? .... :-/ (see screenshots below)
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Are these saved preferences from an older Nuendo version?
Then it very well can be, because this whole section has been re-programmed, just because the "old" color schemes were not future-proof and couldn't be supported anymore. (Old code)

If this happens with color schemes made in N10, which can't be recalled in N10, then something is wrong indeed.

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Brand-new preferences, sorry to say so ... :-/ The old ones don't translate anyway (at least not as far as the GUI's colors are concerned).
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Hi Fredo and thanks a lot to Dietz for pointing out this issue, taking time for the little mov and screen captures !

I confirm this issue is from brand new preferences.

From Nuendo 4, I am used to customize my color preferences for each new Nuendo version. Most of preferences are automatically copied to next Nuendo version, never color preferences. Reason was that color preferences system did evolve with each iteration.

So, cherry on top, as you can't copy values by hand because the whole color thing is always different, you have to recreate them by eye.

Manually, for (at least) a couple of hours, going from 4 to 5, 5 to 6, 6 to 7, 7 to 8, 8 to 8.3, 8.3 to 10, (boring extended list on purpose to fully express hassle), I had to recreate, fine tune then SAVE my color preferences.

This time, something new happens. You can't save color preferences. If you do, those preferences are lost :(. After pulling my hair off after color preferences loss n°3, I decided to not save.

This is working :shock:.

Please, developers don't die, I love you, you are geniuses and I know you are going to resolve this issue.
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Thanks for the confirmation and the additional details, Otto!

... a question @Fredo (or maybe @Ed Doll): Is it necessary to create a support case to make Steinberg reliably aware of the issue, or is this forum thread enough?
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Yup I've experienced this too - once when all the colors disappeared like in your image above, the fader caps were all completely opaque. No reason for it - completely new color scheme not from V8. As mentioned, it's a bit of a crap shoot when you create/store a new custom theme.

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And speaking of colors, N10 seems to make me do an extra click after I change a color in the color menu. It stays open until I either click close or click somewhere else on the page. I prefer the auto close way of before. Any extra clicks I have to make add to my cramped hands at the end of the day.
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The devs do know about this...

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BUMP: Still faulty in NU 10.1.0.
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Dietz wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:57 am
BUMP: Still faulty in NU 10.1.0.
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just formated C:/ on W10.
installed fresh nuendo 10.1
installed fresh all NI plugs... everything.
set manually all pref in nuendo i just imported old kecommands.
i stored all preferences windows by windows and created a Profile in Profile manager.

nothing was stored !all pref files are gone (note even able to manually load them they don't ewist in any folder
Profile manager that i stored and exported is not working.
i think pref are not even stored. i use this [+] sign, enter a name preset then i can see the name preset i stored but if i look in entire C: for the exact anme of that preset nothing comes up.
i look at my keycommand preset in appdata.. it's empty not event the ones that comes with nuendo by default
this is such a waste of time.

steinberg info :
Track presets (included with the program) Folder where program is installed into \Track Presets (with sub folders \Audio, \Instrument, \Midi, \Multi) as *.trackpreset
it's not ! i don't even have a "Track Presets" folder where nuendo is installed.


---EDIT wait ,now nuendo 10 does not want to read my keycommand from neudno 8 in .xml ? says not valid file ? what ?
so did further test. if i clic the folder icon to import keycommand it does not work. if i drop the key command in Nuendo 10_64\Presets\KeyCommands the load it with the little "arrow menu" it works.

.. guys i seriously need to work and help, work around is welcome.

---EDIT2
so i deleted appdata folder again and this time i droped in my keycommand, set all pref manualy but didn't store anything from nuendo. Also i didn't change the colors. And things are loaded back on restart. So probably saving preset is what's causing the issue (?) anyway that works for me.
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This is a bug since the new color system was introduced. Individual color presets cannot be recalled. I'm referring to the OP, since there's a bit of other discussion in this topic.

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Bump - still an issue in 10.2.10, on macOS. What in the world is going on? This is a pretty simple, yet highly important function of the overall UI experience that should have easily been caught (and dealt with) early on during BETA testing.

I can't stand the default high-contrast dark color schemes (who is suggesting these horrible color schemes to begin with?).

Little annoyed that I just spent $200 on the upgrade, and it can't even get something as simple as color schemes right. Looks like back to v8.3 for the time being. I'm excited to use some of the new features/functions, but refuse to deal with something as silly as having to reset my color preferences every time I load the application to make it useable for my eyes...:mad:

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Well, you know - we're getting laughed at here as the "complainers". *shrugs shoulders*

-> viewtopic.php?f=291&t=169980&p=920889#p920889

... at least you can opt for "being too old" or "being too young" to understand that everything is just marvellous.
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I try to stay out of all that drama. I just want to see basic core UI elements work. And I don't think that's an unreasonable request from a platform as good as Nuendo has been all these years since it's inception.

Just trying to get to my v8.3 look-n-feel (based on classic v2.0 look-n-feel)

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Please make this a priority guys, so we can all start enjoying what you've done with v10 👍🏼

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Kaya Orsan wrote:
Fri May 24, 2019 9:52 pm
Yeah, it's bit of a gamble whether Cubase/Nuendo remembers your color settings. Same with Generic Controller settings, I've found.
the generic remote settings bug is reported to be fixed in cubase 10.5

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holografique wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:54 am
[..]
Just trying to get to my v8.3 look-n-feel (based on classic v2.0 look-n-feel)
[...]
Your colours looks pretty much like my preferred GUI-settings. :-D Fresh and easy on the eyes.
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Just FYI: The most recent maintenance update 10.2.20 doesn't address the issue that's been apparent since almosta year now. :-(
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