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Download speed unacceptable

Post by Schorsch64 » Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:42 pm

Hello Steinberg,

please allow me to complain about the download speed for your products. I have purchased Cubase this morning, paid for it immediately by credit card, downloaded the Download Assistant and started downloading the purchased Cubase version. My today's internet connection has an average download bandwidth of around 50MBit/s, but the download of Cubase comes in with a speed of between 150kBit/s and 250kBit/s - the result is that now, 7 hours after I started the download, just around 40% have been downloaded so far - this means that the total download time takes around 17 hours which is totally unacceptable ! :cry:

I wonder why your download speed is so slow, are you able to explain this? You are charging a significant amount of money for your software and for this customers can accept a state-of-the-art infrastructure to receive the products in a reasonable amount of time.

Best regards, a customer who's first impression of your performance capability is a very bad one - I hope that your software performs better than your download infrastructure :evil:
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Re: Download speed unacceptable

Post by Nickeldome » Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:09 pm

Schorsch64 wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:42 pm
Hello Steinberg,

please allow me to complain about the download speed for your products. I have purchased Cubase this morning, paid for it immediately by credit card, downloaded the Download Assistant and started downloading the purchased Cubase version. My today's internet connection has an average download bandwidth of around 50MBit/s, but the download of Cubase comes in with a speed of between 150kBit/s and 250kBit/s - the result is that now, 7 hours after I started the download, just around 40% have been downloaded so far - this means that the total download time takes around 17 hours which is totally unacceptable ! :cry:

I wonder why your download speed is so slow, are you able to explain this? You are charging a significant amount of money for your software and for this customers can accept a state-of-the-art infrastructure to receive the products in a reasonable amount of time.

Best regards, a customer who's first impression of your performance capability is a very bad one - I hope that your software performs better than your download infrastructure :evil:
That's very odd! Because I never have issues with the connection to Steinberg. I have a 250 Mbit connection and just a few days ago I downloaded a fairly large file with the assistant at the same speed (about 31mb/s). Maybe something with your modem/router or maybe your ISP is throttling some sites/connections? But I'm pretty sure it's not because the Steinberg site is that slow?
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Post by jaslan » Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:35 pm

More likely, the speed is being limited by the internet service provider. Steinberg speed are fast in my experience. I have downloaded Halion6 (30Gb) on the day it was released (very busy) and I think it look only just over an hour.
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Re: Download speed unacceptable

Post by Schorsch64 » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:16 pm

Hi,

thanks for the reponses, but I can assure that the problem did not occur because of a problem or speed limit caused by my provider. I checked this while the extremely slow download went on from Steinberg by downloading another file at 1GB size from another source and this was downloaded at 23Mbit/s, proving that the max of 250kBit/s coming from Steinberg have not been caused by the provider
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Post by -steve- » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:06 pm

Unfortunately, testing another source doesn't really tell you anything about the problem- the issue could be occurring anywhere along the route between the SB servers and your machine.
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Re: Download speed unacceptable

Post by Schorsch64 » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:52 pm

Agree - just interesting that I never had and have this problem with such a significantly low download speed when downloading from whatever other source and whatever day of the week and time of the day in the past 3 years after I upgraded my internet connection to 50 Mbit/s, and believe me I’m a deeply knowledgeable IT guy knowing a lot about WAN technology and ways to identify a problem. I strongly assume that this was a Steinberg-Infrastructure related problem but it’s to hear that all of you haven’t had this problem which may look like it was a one-time issue and I stepped into this accidentally. The product by the way is great, really powerful!
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Re: Download speed unacceptable

Post by matjones » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:12 am

I've just taken delivery of a new system 8-) and downloaded the latest FULL inistallers with all content of Cubase, Halion and Padshop.. ALL at between 100 and 113Mbit/s....

The problem appears to be at the OP's end...
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Post by Ed Doll » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:59 pm

We use Akamai as the content delivery network, one of the bigger ones worldwide and we pay a fortune for it already ;) The download speed many vary due to different factors involved but usually, it is fast. This is why we cannot really assist here.
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Post by Chelsea » Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:17 am

I have downloaded Steinberg, too. And I didn't have problem with Steinberg wrt downloading. Probably, It has something to do with your service provider. Also were you allowed to choose mirrors before downloading. If you can do that, try to use the most appropriate mirror to download. It would help you to increase your download speed considerably.
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Post by Benderrex » Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:26 am

Hello - I know this is an old thread, but I came searching for it because I'm having the same problem. I have a fairly fast download connection, but can only get 1-3 MB/sec at Steinberg. Very slow. I know -steve- mentioned that comparing to another site might not be entirely the same, but I also find downloading from multiple other sites much faster.

Are there other mirrors? The problem might be that I'm on the east coast of USA. Ed Doll mentions they do not have problems on their side, but I see that he's in Hamburg, Germany. Perhaps if there were a mirror in the states, the speeds might be different. Just a thought. Thanks.

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Post by Ed Doll » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:30 am

Hello! I am sorry to hear that! As mentioned, we use Akamai and their network has many mirrors worldwide. See this page for details:
https://www.akamai.com/uk/en/solutions/ ... ry-map.jsp
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Re: Download speed unacceptable

Post by EinnorGoks » Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:33 am

Same problem here in Australia.
Latest fix 10.5.10 of 340MB seems to take 1/2 hour, about 260 kb/s
My connection is fast, about 100 Mbps over cable.
Something wrong with Steinberg, as other sites are fast

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Post by Ed Doll » Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:21 pm

Thanks for the feedback!
Although it leads to the same servers: is there a difference between a download using the Steinberg Download Assistant and the direct download? For Cubase 10.5, you can find them here:
https://www.steinberg.net/en/support/do ... e_105.html

Just trying to find a potential error in the chain.
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Re: Download speed unacceptable

Post by lovegames » Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:14 pm

EinnorGoks wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:33 am
Same problem here in Australia.
Latest fix 10.5.10 of 340MB seems to take 1/2 hour, about 260 kb/s
My connection is fast, about 100 Mbps over cable.
Something wrong with Steinberg, as other sites are fast
Austalia has shat internet connectivity in general don't they? everyone I have game with who is in Australia always has the worst lag regardless of their net speed.

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Re: Download speed unacceptable

Post by jaslan » Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:03 pm

EinnorGoks wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:33 am
Something wrong with Steinberg, as other sites are fast
Too many factors to know that for fact.
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Post by EinnorGoks » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:28 am

Ok, lets not blame Steinberg then :)
Must be a bottleneck somewhere, what used to be quick to download, now takes forever.
Luckily I had save installation files for Groove Agent 5 + all the add-ons...would have been downloading for a week otherwise :)
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Re: Download speed unacceptable

Post by Nickeldome » Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:26 am

It's probably not a Steinberg issue? I really never had any issues with downloadspeeds from Steinberg. just make sure you use the 'Download Assistant'. https://www.steinberg.net/en/support/co ... stant.html

Because there can be a difference with just downloading via https://www.steinberg.net/en/support/downloads.html.
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Re: Download speed unacceptable

Post by Freya009 » Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:53 pm

If you are not getting good download speeds then I believe it is time for you to find out whether your internet connection is working properly or not.

Try downloading some other files over the internet and tackle the problem one at a time.
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