C10 with Arturia V-Collection HiDPI error

Beats me m8, I have a very big monitor… ?
To be honest its rare I would actually run an Arturia plugin directly in Cubase I would usually wrap in Komplete Kontrol, I just did that test for you on one plugin, but even KK has issues with cutting the Arturia plugins GUI. Their habit of using overly large artistic representations of classic kit might sell products but I don’t find their GUIs very good at all, they install way to much graphic content on the C drive and I don’t find it pleasant program. Good for preset browsing and showing to your friends, but ultimatly a bit frustrating if you are not faniliar with the original device. I like the SEM and the DX7 is a step in the right direction but you could land a Jumbo on the Jupiter GUI and still not be able to see the filter control swiftly.

they are all working fine here… without any wrapper…
(win7x64 btw)

@peachy -I agree that all Plugin devs (if possible) should use vector graphics so that plugins gfx can be kept a small data size and the GUI can be resized (by click/drag) as much as needed without losing resolution …

I like the plugs… yes, some are very complex- but you will learn how to use them over time (if you want to do so) - If I ever stand in front of the real deal, I will feel right at home then… - same with all these modelled processors etc…
for example: I don’t know if I will ever own a synclavier or whatever(or feel the need to own …) - but If that gear would sit in front of me, or, I would rent some super special boutique gear for some hypothetical super session, I would know what to do…
Anyway, I do not get things to “show friends”… These are all just tools for the sound… - But why am I tellilng you this if you indeed have 30yrs experience?:wink:

  • Just map the filter or whatever to the quick controls;)

Newly installed does not solve the problem. HiDPI definitely does not work with V Collection

Does it look good if you deactivate HiDPI?

also, found this good read if you(or whoever) haven’t seen it yet:

(english)

(german)

I also stumled across this post from someone@kvr- not about cubase but hidpi and plugins…:

I will retract myself from this post now… (dont use win10 or hdpi so I can’t help you there with troubleshooting;) )

pls let us know how things go and what the solution was;)

good luck=)

@ Oscar

I hear you, which is why I use KK to wrap the plugin, the filter is right in front of me, and I did not mean to imply you personaly showed them to your friends. :slight_smile:

I just like having a good whinge now and again, and seeing as I have a day off to sit in front of my PC I thought I would indulge in my favourite habit of instructing developers how to build a decent plugin… Come on we have all done a bit that :smiley:

I really don’t mind the Atruria stuff I wouldn’t have bought them otherwise, but the GUIs are a bit of a bug bear with me, I would rather use a u-he plugin anytime, although its not exactly the same.

@Oscar Goldmann
As written further above, without HiDPI things work.
Helpcenter did not show a solution, nor kvraudio Link.
I also have send the question to Arturia Support. If I had paid he full price now for VCollection, I would be really go mad.

Of course, once this is solved, I will post feedback here as many times I found solutions the same way when somebody else found out before :slight_smile:

If you have not tried this set windows scaling to 200% exactly. Steinberg rounds for example 150% to 200% but the Arturia might be at 150% which might cause this issue. I can’t try it cause I have no HDPI monitor yet.

makes sense… :wink: oh, btw, did you see this plugin i have ? flaunts random vst uhuh… you know whats up;)

ah yes… thats very sporting of you:P- I also do the same to vst devs and also some sequencer devs:P :wink:

It can get “fiddly” I must admit… having to lean forward, all close to the screen to somewhat catch a glimpse of what some miniature words say is more relevant nowadays than ever… cant remember such “fine print” synths in the past… even figuring out what module I am inserting from modular for example…lol its not always a walk in the park… my small laptop monitor isn’t an imax;)
heck man (no pun intended) - I would prefer the real analog deals over their digital “homages” anyday - but I must admit… I feel like I am in heaven with the ergonomics of vsts alone… - no more lists with synth patch numbers, no more jazz drives, no more akai samplers no more this, no more that…
save project with vsts, done. great =) lol its wonderful=)

@wabo cool, hope you get it sorted… thanks in advance for the “solution” feedback (If you can remember to post and have time etc;) ) Sounds like something good to know…

carpe diem=)


Next step reached.
1)
Windows Screen Setting at 100%, HiDPI on, works for Arturia, but then Cubase menues are extremely tiny, partially as one can see on the attched picture.
Any other windows setting does not work. I am used to have it set at 125-150% so I can read the menues.

HiDPI off, Windows Setting at whatever(tested 100-225%), Arturia Plugins work but waste a lot of space. Cubase gets a little blurry then.

So OK, one can use V-Collection, but not together with HiDPI other than 100% and with unreadable menues.
I believe that the problem, if there is one, should be solved either at Arturia for full functionality of the collection or Cubase for full compatibility of VST´s on the market. Especially the HiDPI setting would have saved me from wearing glasses all the time or turn up contrast and brightness on my monitors.

At this point cubase only supports full integers scaling. So 100% 200% etc. Did you try 200%? Cubase will look the same as at 150% but arturia might scale correctly then!

Yes, I tried as described 200 as well with HiDPI on, which scales the plugin to oversize and inccorrect. And 200% is also way too large anyways for Cubase on a 32" screen.I do not need letters to be 8mm high :slight_smile:

HiDPI works with Windows 100% scaling and V-collection correctly displayed.
HiDPI off works with any scaling and V-Collection.
All other settings do NOT work.

I just right now retried all those setting variants to be 100% sure

There is though a workaround in case you have multiple monitors.
Set Cubase on Hidpi at any percentage and set a separate monitor to display only Arturia plugins(or anything else where the size does not really matter) at HiDPI 100%.

This is what Arturia says…:


Which means as much as “we know, but we don´t even work on this.”

The same thing happens with East West’s play engine.

Can’t select patches…

Any news here? Arturia stated that this would be resolved by steinberg with the “next update”, which was back in November 2018. I’m still having trouble here with Cubase 10.3 and the latest Arturia V7

Hello,

I got Cubase to scale Arturia plugins correctly by doing the following:

– First you must prepare Cubase for HDPI.

  1. Double click the “Cubase” on the desktop icon to open it.
  2. On the top menu go to “Edit” → “Prefrences”
  3. On the left of the window, there’s a list of options. Find and click “General”
  4. Make sure the “Enable HDPI” checkbox is checked.
  5. Hit “OK” to accept changes.
  6. Close Cubase (Make sure the top menu / title bar is closed too, not just the project).

– Now you must configure windows 10 to let Cubase manage scaling.

  1. Right Click the “Cubase” icon on desktop.
  2. Choose “Properties”
  3. From the dialog box choose “Compatibility”
  4. Click the “Change High DPI Settings” button.
  5. In the new dialog that opens, make sure the checkbox labeled “Overide high DPI scaling behavior” is checked (its at the bottom of the dialog box).
  6. Right bellow it says “Scaling performed by:” and theres a dropdown. Make sure “Application” is selected.
  7. Click ok, to each open window to apply all changes.

Now you can open Cubase and scaling will work as expected.

Hope this helps.

Wow, that works well! Thank you very much psychowsky!

Only just created an account to thank you, that was brilliant!

This solution should be an official tutorial! Pure luck I stumbled upon it and it works a charm. Thanks!

This method didn’t fix my issue with Cubase 12 and the Arturia V-Collection plugins running in Komplete Kontrol. I have two monitors: Main is 2560 x 1440 and secondary is 1920x1080. The GUI for the Arturia plugins running in Komplete Kontrol is scaled way too large. I can’t see the whole interface on either monitor. Anyone have a fix for this?

Hi-DPI is enabled in Cubase Preferences and I followed these steps to enable compatibility mode from the taskbar but no luck. Using Windows 10 Pro 64 bit version 21H2.

Hi

Is this option available for your plugin and have you tried using it? https://helpcenter.steinberg.de/hc/en-us/articles/360017509919-Cubase-11-Using-DPI-unaware-plug-ins-on-Windows

Cheers,
Armand