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It seems that Dorico is only available at the moment by download. Any idea when box sets will be available?

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I will find the answer to this and come back to you.

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You can buy a boxed version of Dorico from the Steinberg web shop only in countries where we sell boxed products direct to end users, which is not every country: you presumably live in one of the countries that we do not sell boxed products direct to end users. If you would like to buy the boxed version of Dorico, please contact your local reseller. You can use our dealer locator to find your nearest reseller:

http://www.steinberg.net/en/shop/dealer_locator.html

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Thanks, Daniel.
I'll go the download route after all. (Can't wait!)

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I would like to run Dorico on my desktop and laptop Macs. Obviously I need the USB dongle, although I would have preferred a "two-installations-allowed" setup like Sibelius. I am in the USA. I can order a box online today, but it says "available shortly." Here are my questions:

* Is "available shortly" measured in days, weeks, or months?
* What comes in the box? Does it include a real, complete, printed user manual? (I doubt that I am that lucky!)

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Available shortly should be days, not weeks. Indeed you might be able to go to one of our resellers (e.g. Sweetwater) and they may even have stock today: certainly boxes were shipping out of our warehouse to distributor partners a couple of weeks ago in preparation for today.

The box contains 2 DVD-ROMs, an empty USB-eLicenser, and a multi-language quick start guide sheet. No printed manual, I'm afraid!

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Daniel: Thank you for your reply. The download version is $279.99. The boxed version is $299.99. The difference is $20. Allow me to restate what you have posted elsewhere:

1. There is no difference between the download version and the boxed version other than the USB e-Licenser. The contents of the boxed version's two DVDs can be downloaded from Steinberg after purchase.

2. If I purchase the download version for $279.99, then I will be able to order a USB e-licenser for the difference in price between the boxed version and the download version (an additional $20) once the USB e-Licenser becomes available as a separate purchase.

Are statements 1 and 2 correct?

(The reason I ask is because Steinberg wants to add sales tax to the entire price of the $299.99 boxed version. If I buy the USB dongle when it becomes available as a separate item later, then I would pay sales tax on the $20 price.)

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Statements 1 and 2 are correct, though the actual price of the USB-eLicenser varies from country to country and may be different than the $20 difference in price we have accounted for, depending on whether you buy from us or from a reseller, and shipping costs, etc. But the general idea is that a USB-eLicenser costs about $20 so if you buy the download version you won't be hugely out of pocket if you later choose to buy a USB-eLicenser.

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I have downloaded this morning. If I buy the USB-eLicenser now, will I be able to use it now, or is that capability in the future? My current Dorico installation is on my Windows desktop, but I'd also like to test the program on my Mac Laptop, and for that I'd need the eLicenser.
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A USB e-Licenser is $27.99 on Steinberg's website, plus $6.99 shipping, plus $2.73 sales tax in California = $37.71 total. That's nearly double the $20 expected price. See:

http://www.steinberg.net/en/shop/buy_pr ... 09050.html

Will there be a special offer for new Dorico purchasers?

Or is that what you meant by "... may be different than the $20 ..." (In other words, we should not bother to wait, just order it.)

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Daniel at Steinberg wrote:Available shortly should be days, not weeks. Indeed you might be able to go to one of our resellers (e.g. Sweetwater) and they may even have stock today: certainly boxes were shipping out of our warehouse to distributor partners a couple of weeks ago in preparation for today.

The box contains 2 DVD-ROMs, an empty USB-eLicenser, and a multi-language quick start guide sheet. No printed manual, I'm afraid!
Hi Daniel:

I just spoke to Randy Akins (my sales guy at Sweetwater). They will be taking pre-orders as of tomorrow, but apparently their system shows an ETA for the boxes of November 11 ... that's a pretty long wait. Is there any way you can figure out whether it's really going to take that long?

Somewhat related, what if I buy a device that doesn't have a DVD drive (e.g. Microsoft Surface Pro), do I have to buy a separate download version? Obviously that's not something I would be looking forward to.

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Regarding the Dorico boxed crossgrade, and Sweetwater--

I emailed them a few weeks ago, and this was the reply I got:
Hi Bob, you will need to go directly through Steinberg for this. Chris
Have they since changed Peter?

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Peter Roos wrote:snip]

Somewhat related, what if I buy a device that doesn't have a DVD drive (e.g. Microsoft Surface Pro), do I have to buy a separate download version? Obviously that's not something I would be looking forward to.
When I had my SurfacePro I installed software all the time off of DVDs and CDs by using an external USB3 DVD drive. Not that expensive.

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Bob Morabito wrote:Regarding the Dorico boxed crossgrade, and Sweetwater--

I emailed them a few weeks ago, and this was the reply I got:
Hi Bob, you will need to go directly through Steinberg for this. Chris
Have they since changed Peter?

Thanks Bob
Hi Bob:

Yes -- it appears the answer I got is a bit different from the answer you got, a couple of weeks. Randy is happy to sell me a boxed version with the Sibelius cross grade discount, but he alerted that they don't have them in stock yet and that according to their systems those boxes won't arrive until mid November (November 11, specifically).

Daniel earlier mentioned that the boxes should be expected to arrive at re-sellers within days, not weeks -- so I am trying to square this with what Sweetwater told me.

(And, related, I also have questions about devices that have no DVD device).

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It seems as if nobody has Dorico in stock. When will it be available?
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Peter Roos wrote:Somewhat related, what if I buy a device that doesn't have a DVD drive (e.g. Microsoft Surface Pro), do I have to buy a separate download version? Obviously that's not something I would be looking forward to.
No, you can just download it here: http://www.steinberg.net/index.php?id=13396&L=0
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Sorry to add to the noise of the message board, with a relatively trivial request, but...

I ordered a Dorico box from the Steinberg web store yesterday, the cross grade went through quickly, but I've still had no notification of when it will be shipping. I'm in the UK - is there a Steinberg employee who is able to give an estimate as to when I can expect to receive the box? I'm hoping that it's a matter of days rather than weeks! :)
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I spoke to my sales guys at Sweetwater (Randy Akins), he tells me the sales price for the boxed version is $279.00 -- I told him that that has to be a mistake as it is the crossgrade price for a download, not for the boxed version which should be $299.00 (and which includes a hardware dongle in the box, along with 2 DVDs and a quick start menu).

Can somebody at Steinberg clarify this?

Can't wait to get my hands on Dorico .... suspense is killing me!

Thanks!!

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njfreestone wrote:Sorry to add to the noise of the message board, with a relatively trivial request, but...

I ordered a Dorico box from the Steinberg web store yesterday, the cross grade went through quickly, but I've still had no notification of when it will be shipping. I'm in the UK - is there a Steinberg employee who is able to give an estimate as to when I can expect to receive the box? I'm hoping that it's a matter of days rather than weeks! :)
Just to pick up on this - I got a notification that this was shipped tonight, so it should be with me soon. Can't wait! :)
Nicholas Freestone, Assistant Director of Music, Worcester Cathedral, UK. Currently using Dorico 3.5.

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Peter Roos wrote:I spoke to my sales guys at Sweetwater (Randy Akins), he tells me the sales price for the boxed version is $279.00 -- I told him that that has to be a mistake as it is the crossgrade price for a download, not for the boxed version which should be $299.00 (and which includes a hardware dongle in the box, along with 2 DVDs and a quick start menu).

Can somebody at Steinberg clarify this?

Can't wait to get my hands on Dorico .... suspense is killing me!

Thanks!!
Update on this - Randy at Sweetwater told me that the $279 price is the authorized resale price -- pretty good deal!! :D

Now I'm waiting next to the mailbox ...

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Peter Roos wrote: Update on this - Randy at Sweetwater told me that the $279 price is the authorized resale price -- pretty good deal!! :D
Now I'm waiting next to the mailbox ...
I just ordered from Randy Akins at Sweetwater this morning. Allow me to clarify a few things from Peter Roos' post above:

* The actual price at Sweetwater is $279.99, not $279. For those of you who use "one-time" credit cards or gift cards with a limit, it might make a difference.
* The $279.99 cost is for crossgrade pricing only. You must email Randy proof of ownership of an acceptable crossgrade product (full version) such as Finale, Sibelius, or Notion.
* Have your proof of crossgrade ownership ready to email to Randy, so you can complete the order at the same time. I used Grab on my Mac to capture a screenshot of the "About Finale" dialog box to a TIFF file. (Grab comes with every Mac, in the Utilities folder). It was acceptable to both Steinberg (I never completed that order), and Randy at Sweetwater.
* There was no additional tax or shipping on my order, shipped to California. The final price was $279.99.
* Sweetwater is expecting their inbound shipment from Steinberg in early November. They use Fedex to send the product to customers. You can choose to require a signature or no-signature-required (with inherent risks).
* Randy was very helpful and friendly. This was my first order from Sweetwater. Based on my ordering experience with Randy, I expect to place more orders with him in the future. Highly recommended!

Here is Randy's contact information:

Randy Akins
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Sweetwater Sound, Inc.
(800)222-4700 ext 1299
5501 US Highway 30 West
Fort Wayne, IN 46818
randy_akins@sweetwater.com
http://www.sweetwater.com

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Staff Paper wrote:
Peter Roos wrote: Update on this - Randy at Sweetwater told me that the $279 price is the authorized resale price -- pretty good deal!! :D
Now I'm waiting next to the mailbox ...
I just ordered from Randy Akins at Sweetwater this morning. Allow me to clarify a few things from Peter Roos' post above:

* The actual price at Sweetwater is $279.99, not $279. For those of you who use "one-time" credit cards or gift cards with a limit, it might make a difference.
* The $279.99 cost is for crossgrade pricing only. You must email Randy proof of ownership of an acceptable crossgrade product (full version) such as Finale, Sibelius, or Notion.
* Have your proof of crossgrade ownership ready to email to Randy, so you can complete the order at the same time. I used Grab on my Mac to capture a screenshot of the "About Finale" dialog box to a TIFF file. (Grab comes with every Mac, in the Utilities folder). It was acceptable to both Steinberg (I never completed that order), and Randy at Sweetwater.
* There was no additional tax or shipping on my order, shipped to California. The final price was $279.99.
* Sweetwater is expecting their inbound shipment from Steinberg in early November. They use Fedex to send the product to customers. You can choose to require a signature or no-signature-required (with inherent risks).
* Randy was very helpful and friendly. This was my first order from Sweetwater. Based on my ordering experience with Randy, I expect to place more orders with him in the future. Highly recommended!

Here is Randy's contact information:

Randy Akins
Senior Sales Engineer
Sweetwater Sound, Inc.
(800)222-4700 ext 1299
5501 US Highway 30 West
Fort Wayne, IN 46818
randy_akins@sweetwater.com
http://www.sweetwater.com

Yes - put in my order with Sweetwater this morning as well. Latest I heard about ETA is November 1. One more week!

If you're on Sibelius, take a screen grab of your Avid account which shows the Sibelius activation code, and mail that to Randy (or whoever your contact person is -- he's not the only sales person). Great respect for people who pay the full price, but $300 is quite a bit of money for me -- I prefer to keep that in the bank for e.g. a Cubase license in the future.

Randy is indeed a super nice and helpful guy - generally I can't stand sales people but he's an exception. He recently helped me with a warranty issue on a Behringer sound card as well. I've been shopping with Sweetwater for years, never had a bad experience, I can warmly recommend them (and heard many others say the same thing).

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Randy Akins told me yesterday afternoon that the expected arrival at Sweetwater (before they ship to customers) will be 2 November, not 1 November. Delivery must have slipped a day after Peter's conversation.

The boxed Dorico includes two DVDs, a Getting Started pamphlet, and a Steinberg eLicenser (also called a "Steinberg Key"). Unless you simply cannot wait, this boxed offer seems to me to be the best choice if you are in the US and live outside Indiana. It is essentially the same price as the download version from Steinberg, but you get the DVDs and e-licenser. Even if you don't need them now, the DVDs may offer proof for upgrades (or dare I say it, crossgrades) and the eLicenser may prove useful in the future, even if you plan to run Dorico on a single computer now. I recommend the boxed set from Sweetwater unless you cannot wait, or you find another source at a better price.

(Yes, I recognize that many computers do not have DVD drives, and the DVD will be obsolete as soon as a Dorico update is released. It is the eLicenser that provides the real added value when you buy the boxed package, of course.)

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The Dorico box arrived at my home in Southern California yesterday afternoon. I would like to express my appreciation to Peter Roos for recommending Randy Akins at Sweetwater (see above). Because my music life is simple, I had not heard of Sweetwater until now.

My experience from Randy and Sweetwater was exemplary. They quickly resolved a credit card issue, and shipped the boxed Dorico to me the same day it arrived from Steinberg. They kept me up to date throughout the order process by email. (They would have phoned, if I had asked for it.) I am very impressed with Randy's help and Sweetwater's competence. If you are ready to order Dorico in a box, I highly recommend them.

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