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settings key commands gone after closing dorico

Post by Partitur » Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:45 pm

First of all: compliments and gratulations to the new update! I am enthusiastic about the brilliant cue functions and fingerings. You did not only invent the wheel anew, but gave it a new and never thought of gear mechanism.

I have got only a little problem, since I run Dorico 1.2: I assigned some personal settings for keycommands, esp. for Note Durations. I assigned them again after installing 1.2, because they were missing. Now they are missing after every closing of Dorico. How can I get the application to memorize my settings?
Settings in other parts of Dorico are memorized as should be.

A little help from any Dorico friend would be appreciated!

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Post by kevin b » Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:26 pm

Sadly, I’ve had the same problem. I simply started over and went to the default setting and re-entered my key commands. Since then, my key commands have been stable. I figured it was something strange to do with my system, but now Margret, I know I am not alone.
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Post by Partitur » Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:16 pm

Thanks for the quick answer, Kevin. Unfortunately the resetting of the key commands did not help.
But I will try further.
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Post by Partitur » Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:49 pm

I dived deep into the AppDate/Roaming/Steinberg/Dorico keycommands_de.json file.
It looks as if some of my newly set keykommands will load when starting Dorico, others not.
All "DELETE" commands behave correctly; the old keycommands are gone.

Some of the key commands work fine:
e.g. "NoteInput.SetAccidental?Type=kSharp" : [ "#", "DELETE:?" ]
or "NoteInput.SetArticulation?Value=kTenuto" : [ "Num+-", "DELETE:#" ]
or "NoteInput.NoteValue?LogDuration=kCrotchet" : [ "4", "DELETE:6" ]

But others are gone, when starting Dorico:
e.g. "NoteInput.NoteValue?LogDuration=kQuaver" : [ "8", "DELETE:5" ]
or "NoteInput.NoteValue?LogDuration=kSemibreve" : [ "1", "DELETE:8" ]
"NoteInput.NoteValue?LogDuration=kMinim" : [ "2", "DELETE:7" ]
"NoteInput.NoteValue?LogDuration=kSemiQuaver" : [ "6", "DELETE:4" ]

I don't quite understand what is different between these two groops.
And I don't know how to tell Dorico to save my keyboard shortcuts not only in the *.json file but to load them when starting.

I am using a Cherry keyboard with german keyboard layout.

It would be very nice if anybody could help!
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Re: settings key commands gone after closing dorico

Post by Volker » Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:04 am

I have the same problem (Noteinput value), on Mac with german keyboard.

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Post by Stefaan » Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:52 am

I have a similar experience. Some personal key commands disappear after closing Dorico. I did some tests, and it’s always the same keys that disappear: @ (which is Shift+2 on my keyboard), and # (which is Shift+3 on my keyboard). I experience no problem with the key commands ! (Shift+1) and $ (Shift+4).

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Post by Partitur » Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:04 pm

For now I have the following solution (or rather workaround):
all personal key commands which are lost after restarting Dorico have been replaced by me in the following way:
instead of 8 -> Alt+8
instead of 1 -> Alt+1
instead of 2 -> Alt+2
instead of 6 -> Alt+6.

These key commands work fine d.h. they reappear after starting Dorico.
It seems as if, using the german keyboard layout, some key commands will not load properly.
I think, it is a little bug; surely it will be fixed some day.
Till then we have to test which keys are working and search for an acceptable alternative.

Regards to all of you
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Re: settings key commands gone after closing dorico

Post by MichaelGordonShapiro » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:21 am

I'm also having key command bindings disappear, for commands similar to those described by others in this group. For example

3 -> set Note Duration to 1/4 note
4 -> set Note Duration to 1/8 note

and the like. They disappear after I restart the program. Resetting all key commands didn't help, and re-entering them several successive sessions never made them "stick".

This is unfortunate as I had hoped to switch to Dorico with 1.2, but now have to retreat back to Sibelius. I hope this is fixed soon!

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Re: settings key commands gone after closing dorico

Post by Daniel at Steinberg » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:54 pm

We will look into this, and if there’s a problem, we will make sure it gets fixed as soon as possible.

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Re: settings key commands gone after closing dorico

Post by listentothemuse » Thu Dec 28, 2017 6:07 pm

I'm struggling with the same thing on macOS Sierra. Dorico maintains all other key commands after a quit/restart, except for those that are replacing a default Dorico shortcut. My JSON file shows the replacement key commands, but they do not show up in the key commands dialogue box, and are inactive.
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Post by Stephen Taylor » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:52 pm

I only use two non-standard shortcuts (MacOS High Sierra): 1 and 2, for adjusting the rhythmic grid. These have always worked for me, in every Dorico update.
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Re: settings key commands gone after closing dorico

Post by Daniel at Steinberg » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:55 pm

There is a bug here that revolves around changing the default key command for a command that has parameters, such as the note duration commands. It will be fixed in the next update. In the meantime I’m sorry for the inconvenience caused.

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Re: settings key commands gone after closing dorico

Post by MichaelGordonShapiro » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:58 pm

Thanks for the note Daniel. Is this likely to be a maintenance update in the near future, rather than the Giant No Longer 1.X Update presaged in release notes?

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Post by Daniel at Steinberg » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:03 pm

Yes, it’s likely that we will release a small update in January to fix this and a few other things.

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