Silence at the end of the song

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Re: Silence at the end of the song

Post by Cubasis99999 » Thu Jul 26, 2018 5:32 pm

Same problem here.....
Create a mixdown between markers, song lasts for 5 minutes
Mixdown has an extra 15-20 seconds of silence...
Why?????

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Re: Silence at the end of the song

Post by Cubasis99999 » Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:48 am

Recently create mixdown Cubasis 2.5.
I had about 35 seconds of silence at the end of the mixdown.
I opened a new project,
Add audio track,
Open mixdown to the audio track,
Double click on audio track to open editor at the bottom,
Selected the silent part,
Deleted it,
Saved mixdown.

Hope there’s a fix for this soon.

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Re: Silence at the end of the song

Post by LSlowak » Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:33 pm

Hi all,

As mentioned earlier in the Audiobus forum, we‘ll look at the issue to evaluate a possible fix.

Best Lars
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Re: Silence at the end of the song

Post by powerobject » Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:57 pm

Lars,

Just want to give a strange behavior update on this issue.

I just mixed down a new project with bs-16i AU track inside it, set the locators from start of song to end of song and I selected Mixdown Between Locators but it still took a lot of time and created a 10+ minute M4A song that is actually a little over 3 minutes long - with about 7 minutes of silence at the end. So, even the Mixdown Between Locators option does not work anymore in Mixdown module.

Also tried with Mixdown Between Locators unselected and got the exact, same 10 minute song generated.

Shekar

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Re: Silence at the end of the song

Post by musikeer » Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:39 pm

Are you selecting "Include effect tail" when you're mixing down? This will add a great deal of silence, even beyond an audible tail sometimes...

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Re: Silence at the end of the song

Post by powerobject » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:23 pm

Yes, but that option was always selected for years with NO issues whatsoever as it is also the default option. The silence is recorded for over 10 minutes after the song is over in some projects and I wonder how that can be low volumes heard. Apparently, these silence issues are all new in recent updates. Seen this issue on 3 different projects so far and the amount of silence is always TWICE the duration of the song (33% song + 67% silence). If the song is 5 minutes, the silence is 10 minutes and so on. This new project is not based on any predefined template but a blank project unlike the other two projects just to make sure it is not the template causing the issues.

I just did another mixdown with just Mixdown Between Locators selected and Include Effect Tail unselected and got the song exported without silence at the end.

Did another mixdown with everything unchecked and got the song exported without silence at the end.

These observations dilute the purpose of Include Effect Tail (that was working fine until a few months ago) because we stand to lose the effect tail if we have to unselect it in order to export the song with correct length and without silence. We unselect Include Effect Tail for creating things like loops and there should be no reason to exclude it in regular songs.
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Re: Silence at the end of the song

Post by musikeer » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:29 pm

Just add a few blank bars at the end of the song to allow for the effect trail, include that space in your right locator. This has been an issue for years.

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Re: Silence at the end of the song

Post by powerobject » Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:35 am

Nope! Never had silence at the end of the song issues until a few months ago. Always used the default Include Effect Tail selected as-is, never selected Mixdown Between Locators and never needed to add any blank bars at the end of the song.

Others have reported similar issues above but not the same.

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Re: Silence at the end of the song

Post by musikeer » Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:03 pm

I gave you the solution to your problem. I am telling you the situation as it has affected me for years. Things change. The fix works.

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Re: Silence at the end of the song

Post by Greener » Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:24 am

Hmm, no further update from Steinberg since the 7th,
am new to the ipad music scene and looking for a daw,
was thinking of Cubasis, but the more I read on this forum
the more I like other daws, sad as Cubasis sounds the best
to me.

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Re: Silence at the end of the song

Post by LSlowak » Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:28 am

Greener wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:24 am
Hmm, no further update from Steinberg since the 7th,
am new to the ipad music scene and looking for a daw,
was thinking of Cubasis, but the more I read on this forum
the more I like other daws, sad as Cubasis sounds the best
to me.
Hi Greener,

Thanks for your message.

There are easy ways around the silence issue (as mentioned by other users), and the issue should not held you up from using Cubasis at all.
Please let me know if you have further questions regarding the app.

Additionally, it might be helpful to browse our available tutorials and/or additional clips from other users, to find out if Cubasis is your tool of choice.

Hope that helps.

Best,
Lars
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