Pizzicato and Arco Dorico 3 and Noteperformer

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Pizzicato and Arco Dorico 3 and Noteperformer

Post by ZacStewart » Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:28 pm

Hi,

I'm struggling to find out why all stringed instruments don't return to Arco when I put the indication in.

They work fine going from Arco to pizz (col legno etc) but the other way round has not worked for me.

An example:
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I am using the trial versions of both (definitely buying Dorico, it is by far the best notation program out there)

Thanks in advance,

Zac
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Post by Daniel at Steinberg » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:00 pm

Zac, can you reproduce the problem in a simple new project? If so, please zip it up and attach it here. You might also try doing 'Reset to Factory Default' in Play > Expression Maps after selecting the 'NotePerformer' expression map.

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Post by ZacStewart » Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:36 pm

Thanks Daniel, I added the file to the original post - changing back to factory settings didn't seem to work

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Post by Daniel at Steinberg » Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:41 pm

That project plays back as expected for me, Zac. Can you export an MP3 file, zip it up and attach it here? If you switch toPLay mode and show the playing technique lane for the cello instrument, do you see the Natural / PIzzicato / Natural / Pizzicato entries in the lane?

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Post by ZacStewart » Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:57 pm

I'm afraid I can't send an MP3 because the free trial of note performer prohibits that, but you can trust my judgement.

The entries are natural for 1 beat and pizzicato for 3 beats.

It is only a problem with noteperformer, if I change it back to the hsse+hso, the playback and the playing technique lane look correct.

I assume it's a problem with the way noteperformer interprets the
Arco symbol

I haven't changed any default settings.

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Post by Daniel at Steinberg » Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:03 am

I think the issue may be that I'm using the latest beta version of NotePerformer 3.3, while you're using NotePerformer 3.2. If I'm correct, this problem will be taken care of when NotePerformer 3.3 is released publicly, which I believe won't be too long.

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Post by ZacStewart » Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:18 am

I hope so because the sounds in noteperformer are amazing and combined with Dorico I have had a major upgrade in my workflow

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Re: Pizzicato and Arco Dorico 3 and Noteperformer

Post by ZacStewart » Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:19 pm

I have an update on this issue: the terms nat. and ord. work perfectly fine, it is just arco that is not working for me

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Post by sjanssens » Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:17 am

I see the same behavior and Zac's solution works for me as well. Eagerly anticipating the NotePerformer update.

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Post by jesele » Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:53 pm

Seems like they just released 3.3

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Post by MarcLarcher » Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:08 pm

Great news, jesele!
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Post by jesele » Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:34 pm

Yes, been checking the site almost daily. ; -)
I guess we will get an email eventually.

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Post by ZacStewart » Fri Dec 27, 2019 5:45 pm

The new update of noteperformer fixes the problem!

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Re: Pizzicato and Arco Dorico 3 and Noteperformer

Post by dko22 » Tue Dec 31, 2019 2:12 pm

as I wrote in another thread, "arco" actually defaults to the "natural" playing technique (you can see this in Engrave-->Edit playing techniques under arco and edit) and this must be present in the Expression Map exclusions -- it appears not to be enough to only have arco/bowed. For instance excluding "natural" even in the default Halion library causes "arco" to fail from my tests.

in NotePerformer "natural" certainly is now included and also works fine for me-- i'm not quite sure what the issue was previously.

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