Steinberg now says "Old lanes style" to return (as option)

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Steinberg now says "Old lanes style" to return (as option)

Post by A.j. » Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:10 pm

Didn't see this communicated here yet. For those of us who use the Lanes/Comping feature regularly, it's important news.

This message from Thorsten Marx, Steinberg Product Planning Manager was recently posted (on the Nuendo forum):
Lanes concept: We understood that the "old" lanes style had some advantages too (once you got used to it). We will introduce changes that will allow for both working styles in an update soon.

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Post by Guest » Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:33 pm

I see that his statement was posted in November!
Thanks for this info...

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Post by jb » Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:47 pm

YES YES YES YES the new lanes behavour drives me crazy (sometimes)........
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Post by ZeroZero » Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:45 pm

Great if true
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Post by runeharpun » Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:27 am

Hopefully we'll be able to select lanes type per track (like the lanes fixed/auto button in previous versions).

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Post by TonyB » Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:07 pm

Er.. Yipee !!
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Post by JMCecil » Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:16 pm

Sweet, It'll be nice to use lanes on non-drum tracks again. Now, if they would add comp lists, that would rock.
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Post by A.j. » Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:21 pm

FunkyDrummer wrote:I see that his statement was posted in November!
Thanks for this info...
Oh, I hadn't noticed that. It's two months old? There have been several threads here (on the Cubase forum) about Lanes/Comping since then (with the inevitable lament for the "old lanes style"). It would have been helpful for Steinberg to mention their future plans regarding lanes over here as well. Communication is key.

Actually, I suppose we're assuming C6 will receive this lanes/comping feature update, and not just Nuendo. That seems to be the way it's worked in the past - in fact, typically Cubase gets these sorts of feature updates first. And what's the timeframe for this update? NAMM starts in a few days - perhaps we''l get it it then?

Steinberg, please enlighten us to your plans. We're all so very curious, and you can help us prepare for our own upcoming projects with the proper expectations.

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Post by alexis » Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:32 pm

With good features associated with each method (old and new), hopefully the outcome will be something along the lines of a single lanes style, but with the ability to individually toggle on and off certain features (e.g., automatic cutting of all lanes at the same place; maybe add a toggle that an overdub can "adopt" the cut location of the lane above it).

There's room for creative flexibility here ... hopefully it's presented as more than a simple binary "either/or" for new vs. old.
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Post by Guest » Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:20 pm

So the question for Steinberg is... When can we expect this update?

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Post by neilwilkes » Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:34 pm

runeharpun wrote:Hopefully we'll be able to select lanes type per track (like the lanes fixed/auto button in previous versions).
That would be ideal.
It could end up as a preference though....
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Post by GargoyleStudio » Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:48 pm

Preference or track setting? Whichever, I'd like it to have a Short-cut Key Command please! But it is fantastic news though.

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Post by The dman » Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:54 pm

OMG I got my self in a situation with the new comping. I have a big project (over 30 hours of dialog lots of takes and edits) and we've been going back to sections and fixing lines but I unknowingly changed some of the take structures. :o I don't have the time right now to sit down and figure out what I'm doing wrong so I'm using C5 for the rest of the project :)

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Post by Feloche » Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:10 am

Can't wait for the new "old lane" feature :D
Thank you Steinberg for listening to us !

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Post by jose7822 » Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:27 am

Feloche wrote:Can't wait for the new "old lane" feature :D
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Post by Conman » Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:31 pm

And we'll all get used to the new style just in time for them to re-introduce the old style no-one will use any more. :mrgreen:
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Post by Guest » Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:22 pm

I genuinely can't remember how the old style was.. can someone please remind me?

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Post by marQs » Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:37 am

Conman wrote:And we'll all get used to the new style just in time for them to re-introduce the old style no-one will use any more. :mrgreen:
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Post by Conman » Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:22 pm

There's an article on the new lanes style in Sound on Sound february issue. Might not help everyone concerned but it looks handy.
I don't know if you can view it direct without an "e-sub" (electronic subscription) straight away but I'll see if any extracts are available anywhere if I don't get arrested for infringing copyright.
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Post by Strophoid » Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:55 pm

I would be interested in reading that :)
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Post by Conman » Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:43 pm

Strophoid wrote:I would be interested in reading that :)
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Post by Strophoid » Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:42 pm

Appears there is also a review of the Behritones and an article on recording Cajons, both very relevant to me atm. I'll probably pick this issue up in the bookstore, thanks :)
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Post by Keith99 » Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:42 pm

wow if this is true I will be so over the moon, I loved the old lanes behaviour

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Post by Feloche » Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:53 pm

I don't know how to quote from the nuendo forum but this explains very well the situation :

Re: Question about N5.5 Events "on top" behavior
by Brandy » Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:16 am

Bredo wrote:
The NEW lanes concept is only good for situations when all your tracking/recording is 100% finished. Not the usual workflow (when working with artists) IMHO. More than often we will try "just another take" after comping to nearly perfection, just to lose all our comped part in the process. Not impressive in front of client.


I want to add something here:

It is just like Bredo described. It looked good in the C6 features videos were the dude said "edit faster". Maybe. If you just comp quick and dirty preproduction stuff with takes sliced only bar for bar, AFTER everything is recorded.

In real world scenario it is WAY different.

You record a few takes, at this point you will usually start to comp the takes, listening to them, using take 2, cutting out and use a phrase from take 4 etc - talking with the talent, agreeing that line 3 is still not good - doing one or two overdubs again, first from the whole part, later only from line 3... Editing, comping.. Using maybe just a "tt" from an older outtake because in the never takes the "tt" was sounding like a "dd" - oh and well - yeaaaa what about take 1?? Isnt it great for line 4 - because he has just more balls? The roughness here we like, so lets use it for line 4, cool! Oh, but here - the word "paaaassion" - I don't like the "aaaa" - but in take 8 I like! Lets just use "aaass" from over here, just a second, I am editing - ok, cool - do you hear the cut? I do not, great!

THAT way a recording session is done!! IMPOSSIBLE with new lanes concept.

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Post by toader » Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:04 am

This is wonderful news!!! I miss the old system so much! This really made my entire day better. :)
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