How many users are taking part on this thread? It hardly constitutes a sizeable percentage of Cubase users. I guessing that most users don’t even visit this site. We probably represent a very, very small pressure group. If this thread becomes too unpleasant towards SB it will be locked and where will that get us?
I think that we need to be measured and patient in the criticism that we make of the present version. We all agree that 8.5 is not ideal and what we need is to be able to persuade SB to start looking at the more historical issues/bugs. Perhaps a list of 5-10 that could be worked through with each update resolving some of them?